Photos Of Purple Martins Using Lone Star Houses

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Steve Kroenke
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Photos Of Purple Martins Using Lone Star Houses

The Lone Star aluminum houses are high quality products and I am having great success with them at my new martin colony site in northwest Louisiana. Martins readily colonized these houses and do well in them.

I use the Alamo house which is basically an aluminum T-14 with minor structural differences. It has 14 compartments which are 6? x 12? in size and can be fitted with nest trays. You can also purchase perching rods which are attached to the porches.

I also have the Goliad, which is my favorite, and this house has 12 compartments of the same size as the Alamo. You can add more floors to the Goliad to create more compartments. Perching rods can be purchased and attached to the porches and you can use nest trays. Though the Goliad has separate porches, the compartments are contiguous and this can increase male martin domination behavior. On my Goliad, I installed porch dividers which helped to keep male martins ?out of each others? feathers? though the dividers did not stop all nest domination behavior. I will be adding at least one more floor to my Goliad next season to create a 16 room house with four tiers. I may even create a 20 room Goliad.

Though the Lone Star houses are high quality and I like them a lot, I have some ?issues? with them. The houses don?t fit snuggly on the poles and wobble when being raised and lowered. This may cause significant noise when the house either scraps or bangs against the side of the pole. My Goliad makes horrendous noise at times and I hated lowering and raising it during the nesting season! I am going to try to re-fit this house on the pole for next season. The Alamo also wobbles and hits against the pole during windy weather and sometimes this causes the martins to flush out. The square hole in the middle of the houses where the pole slides in is larger (maybe too much?) than the pole diameter and there are no slide buttons to keep the house stabilized against the pole. (My PMCA Deluxe gourd systems have such plastic buttons and they not only keep the rack stabilized on the square pole, but greatly reduce the noise factor.)

Also, when raising both houses using the Lone Star winch system, sometimes the houses will not fit snuggly against the top roof section. You will see a small gap/space between the upper roof and the house top and you can?t turn the winch handle any farther. You may have to raise the houses over and over again until the winch finally locks in place so that the houses are flush against the roof. If the houses are not snug against the top roof section, then they may wobble in the wind and create noise each they time hit against the pole.

On the photos of the Alamo, you will see some duct tape attached to the portion of the house that presses up against the roof top pole section. I had tried as an interim measure to create a ?cushion? that would fit more snuggly against the top roof. This worked for a while. What I need to do is take the pole down and re-position the top roof section so that it will fit more securely against the house. However, my duct tape measure did not stop the house from wobbling and hitting against the pole during windy weather.

For next season, I will try to modify both Lone Star houses to hopefully mitigate the ?wobbling? and ?noise? issues. If others have experienced similar problems with Lone Star houses and resolved them, I would appreciate any suggestions! Thanks.

Steve

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Dale Davis

Nice looking housing Steve. Here is a pic of one I built similar.
Matt F.
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Great photos Steve!

Now that the martins are gone, photos like that help to ease the pain!
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Steve Kroenke
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Hey Dale,

Very good looking house! This type of house with separate porches and vertical placement of compartments may minimize nest domination behavior of male martins though not stop it. Also, this house design complelely eliminates problems with "wandering" baby martins and they stay in their nest.

Steve

Hey TexasWhaler,

Thanks! I always enjoy looking at photos of martins flying around housing. I took these pictures later in the season when many martins were gathering around my colony site. I suspect both these Lone Star houses will be nearly 100 % occupied next year.

Steve
Dale Davis

Thanks Steve, I put that house up last year. I had 4 pair nest in it. It has 10 compartments. Lots of visitors investigating during the end of last season. So hoping to get at least 8 pair in it next year.
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Steve,
Do you have much of a problem with starlings on your round-hole Lone Stars?
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Steve Kroenke
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Hey Matt,

I had very little starling activity around my new colony site in northwest Louisiana. (I didn't have a starling problem at my previous site in Tallahassee, Florida either.) Starlings did fly over a few times this year and occasionally even landed on nearby power lines, but that was as far as they got. Either the huge number of martins flying around my site or my presence was enough to discourage the few starlings from investigating. I did shoot two starlings nearby, but they were not at my colony site. Most starling activity seems to be concentrated around the nearby cities/towns, particularly Shreveport area. So far, I don't have a starling problem with my round holes and I will continue using them as the martins are flourishing in my colony. I do have a pellet rifle and any starling will meet the Grim Reaper if he tries to take over any of my martin cavities. I would also try trapping if necessary.

Steve
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Sooooo many martins, that is absolutely beautiful seeing all those martins
I miss them already as Iam sure we all do. Thanks for the pictures.
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Emil Pampell-Tx
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Those houses look nice, especially if you can keep away the sparrows and starlings. Dale, I like your owl guards, I had some on my house that were attached the same way. I don't used the house any longer but the shape if this type house is very appealing
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Dale Davis

Thanks Emil, I decided to put permanent guards on so as not to have to use wire mesh. The martins negotiate the guards as if they weren't even there.
Steve Kroenke
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I thought I would re-activate this post showing martins covering my two Lone Star houses. This photo was taken in 2005. I would encourage folks who are considering a high quality commercial martin house to look at the Lone Star series. My favorite is the Goliad, particularly if you add porch dividers. The Alamo is basically an aluminum T-14.

I managed to correct most of the wobbling issues with my houses by simply working on the top roof cap and making it fit tighter against the major roof line. So I removed the masking tape "cushion" from the Alamo. There are still some noise issues with lowering and raising, but I have seen that on other winch systems, too.

It is interesting that the first martin that returned this year went for the Lone Star houses and not my natural gourds! It is nearly always the opposite and my gourds are usually first selected!

Again, the Lone Star series are high quality houses and a little pricey. But they are worth it.

Good luck to everyone.

Steve
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Wow Steve. I have that house too, but have never had that many nesting in it. That is great.
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Hi Steve, I have several goliad houses. What did you use for dividers and how did you install them? Good luck this year and I enjoy your postings.. Don
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oneidalaker
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Steve, could you cushion the top by glueing some styrofoam padding to the top??
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Hey Shotgun Annie,

I guess the Lone Star houses are my favorite commercial ones! They are so well made and ideal for martins. I hoping for at least 75% occupancy levels in both houses this season.

Good luck in 2006.

Steve

Hey Don,

That is a nice looking setup you got! Do your poles sway much in the wind? What kind of pole are you using?

My good friend Bob Bozeman who lives next door to me made the porch dividers from vinyl coated aluminum. He gets rolls of it from Lowes. Bob has a sheet metal "bender" that makes it easy to create metal martin houses and various accessories for them. He drilled two small holes in the door panels of the Goliad about down the middle and then riveted the porch dividers. They have worked perfectly. However, some male martins continue to be dominant, but I am hoping for more pairs in this house for 2006.

I am glad you enjoy my postings and I hope you have a great martin season in 2006.

Steve

Oneidalaker,

On the Lone Star houses, that top portion is attached to the pole. The key is to ensure the top fits snuggly against the house. Apparently on mine, the top was spread out too much and would not compressed tightly when I raised the house all the way. If it fits tightly, then it acts as "latch" to keep the house stable and not wobbling as much. You may still have some during real windy weather. But it appears to be working much better now.

The idea of styrofoam cushion is something to consider and thanks for the idea. My masking tape was just an interim measure, but it eventually failed.

Good luck in 2006.

Steve
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Hey Steve, the 30 foot pole sways very little, of course I lower the houses to about 10 feet if there is a strom in the area...The pole is 3 1/2 inch square with a electric hoist, It's connected to the ground like the lights on a off ramp interstate highway, I use stainless steel bolts to level the pole..I have limited area and have 64 cavities on this pole when I put the rest of the gourds up but I did have 102 pair last year with the other 6 poles I have up..so I feel blessed.. Good luck and best regards... Don
Steve Kroenke
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Hey Don,

Thanks for sharing that information. On March 31, 2005 we had a terrific wind storm, possibly a small tornado that severely bent some of Bob's 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 inch water pipes. Both my Lone Star gourd rack poles were bent, too. So I am assuming your 3 1/2 inch square pole is strong and could probably withstand a fairly powerful wind gust.

Sounds like you have a great colony! Good luck in 2006.

Steve
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Steve, you mentioned that Lowes has sheets of vinyl coated aluminum. Both my Trio Castle and my Trio Musselman got banged up by wind driven ice during a storm. Are these sheets wide enough to make new floors for the houses? I was going to straighten the aluminum as best I could but new stock might be better.
Steve Kroenke
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Oneidalaker,

These are vinyl coated aluminum rolls and are 24 inches wide. So there is a lot of aluminum to work with. Bob actually builds martin houses from it and has also used it to re-furbished old Trios. This includes new sides, floors and inside partitions. Bob gets the rolls in either white or hunter green front side and a gray back. So you would have enough aluminum. However, I am not sure if you would want that much and perhaps Lowes sells small rolls or even sheets of it. Good luck.

Steve
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Steve, thanks, I'll look into the aluminum.
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