Aggressive Purple Martin?
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Ginny Pres
- Posts: 31
- Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 10:26 am
- Location: Missouri, Raymore (south of KC)
About a dozen of our Purple Martins are already here. We have something we've never had before. What appears to be a sub-adult male (or possibly a female) is very aggressive. It will approach another Martin and "peck" (or nudge) with its beak and force the other bird to move. This has been going on for a couple of days. Is this kind of aggression from a sub-adult or female even possible? I did a little internet search, and I wonder if it could be a Northern Rough-winged Swallow. Is this possible. From what I read, the Northern R-W Swallow doesn't use Purple Martin housing, but could they? Thanks for any input!
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randyM
- Posts: 254
- Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:30 pm
- Location: Long Lake SD
- Martin Colony History: * 2016 - 1 pair (ASYM + SYF) 2/3 eggs hatched 2 young fledged.
* 2017 - 4 pairs, 16/17 eggs hatched, 16 fledged, 16 banded - 2 banded SY returned in 2018 (12.5%)
* 2018 - 10 pairs, 46/52 eggs hatched, 45 fledged, 29 young banded - 3 banded SY returned in 2019 (10.3%)
*2019 - 32 pairs, 145/160 eggs hatched, 139 fledged - 87 young banded - 12 banded SY returned in 2020 (13.8%).
* 2020 - 35 pairs, 180/199 eggs hatched, 178 fledged - 150 young banded & 42 SY returned (28.0%)
* 2021 - 89 pairs, 363/446 eggs hatched, 355 fledged - 150 young banded & 19 SY returned (12.7%)
*2022 - 116 pairs, 495/579 eggs hatched, 471 fledged - 150 young banded & 27 SY returned (18.0%)
*2023 - 160 pairs, 708/828 eggs hatched, 572 fledged - 150 young banded & 38 SY returned (25.3%)
*2024 - 235 pairs, 950/1153 eggs hatched, 865 fledged - 100 young banded & 18 SY returned (18.0%)
*2025 - 200 pairs, 795/953 eggs hatched, 739 fledged - 200 young banded
The individual bird you are referring to is likely a dominant adult female martin. I've observed similar behavior at my colony from males and females alike...most birds that exist together in close proximity have some type of pecking order, hence the reference "pecking". Northern rough-winged swallows typically nest in earthen tunnels along stream or riverbanks and are not known to nest in man-made housing like tree swallows and violet-green swallows generally do. Also, rough-winged swallows are noticeably smaller than martins, so if the bossy bird at your colony is not any smaller than the other martins, it's probably an adult female martin and not a NRW swallow.
Randy
Randy
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Ginny Pres
- Posts: 31
- Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 10:26 am
- Location: Missouri, Raymore (south of KC)
Thanks for providing some clarity. I guess it's just strange to us that we've never observed this type of behavior from a female Purple Martin before. Maybe as more of our colony arrives she will settle down?
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C.C.Martins
- Posts: 3368
- Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
- Location: Corpus Christi Tx
- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member
Sounds like a good strong girl, hope she passes those traits to her fledges. Enjoy the show!
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
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flyin-lowe
- Posts: 3792
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
- Location: Indiana/Henry Co.
Likely way to early to have sub adults in your area. If you think this nudging is aggressive wait until you see a sub adult fight an adult to the ground, or start dragging babies out of a nest. They can be nasty.
2026 HOSP 29
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
