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charlesgremillion
Posts: 33
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm
Location: Southaven MS
Martin Colony History: 2020 - 6 pairs 13 fledged
2021 - 0
2022 - 5 pairs 9 fledged
2023- 9 pairs 22 fledged
2024 -12 pairs 31 fledged
2025 - 14 pairs 38 fledged
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I just finished a successful season; it was a big contrast from last year when my colony suddenly deserted their nests. This year I had five pairs,12 hatched and nine fledged.
I owe a great deal to members of the forum for the advice I was given last summer, namely House Sparrow control, taking down nearby trees and predator guards backed up with bird netting. And I attribute this season's success to all of you.
I have a question concerning predator guards. I use S & K Tri Poles, but when I attached my baffles 48" from the ground and then bird netting over the baffles, I was unable to lower my poles for nest checks, without help which I don't have. Is the rule of thumb 48" from the ground an absolute?
Birdiegirl
Posts: 367
Joined: Sun May 24, 2020 7:03 pm
Location: Scott County Kentucky
Martin Colony History: Two poles: 2 T-14s and 8 gourds
2021- 1 pair, 5 fledged
2022- 11 pair, 36 fledged
2023- 20 pair, 78 fledged
2024- 32 pair, 109 fledged
2025- 34 pair, 117 fledged
2026-

Hi Charles,

Congratulations on a successful season- so happy they returned for you! I am new to this hobby, but the way I understand it, predator baffles work especially well for mammals and sometimes snakes- and that the netting is the 'backup' in case a large snake manages to clear the baffle. I believe that PMCA recommends 48" based on their studies- the higher the baffle, the harder for a ground critter to reach and get leverage to climb. I had tri tel poles when I started out, so I understand your dilemma with the pins- you simply can't lower the poles with the baffle in place. One good option is to buy or build a removable baffle- one that you can take off the pole and set aside before lowering the poles to do nest checks. I'm not sure if there is one made specifically for the tri tel pole that you could purchase, but there are threads on this forum that talk about how to build your own. We are second year landlords. Our tri tel poles were damaged by straight line winds last season, so this year we changed to round steel poles and built removable baffles and netting support using suggestions on this forum. I'll do a little digging for the plans/link- maybe others on here already have them handy to post. There is a wonderful landlord named Kathy Freeze that did a youtube video on how to make a removable support for the snake netting to fit above a predator baffle. We followed her advice and use them on both our poles this year. Not sure I can link it here, but search 'constructing snake netting protection for your purple martin housing'. Both of these are GREAT winter projects- good luck to you!
Laura
PMCA member
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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charlesgremillion wrote:
Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:49 pm
I just finished a successful season; it was a big contrast from last year when my colony suddenly deserted their nests. This year I had five pairs,12 hatched and nine fledged.
I owe a great deal to members of the forum for the advice I was given last summer, namely House Sparrow control, taking down nearby trees and predator guards backed up with bird netting. And I attribute this season's success to all of you.
I have a question concerning predator guards. I use S & K Tri Poles, but when I attached my baffles 48" from the ground and then bird netting over the baffles, I was unable to lower my poles for nest checks, without help which I don't have. Is the rule of thumb 48" from the ground an absolute?
I'm glad of your success! Congrats and wish you many more. I look at the forum as PMCAs super colony of landlords, everyone has an experience that makes us a tad bit better.
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
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