Another nest check question

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Thomabear
Posts: 484
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:10 am
Location: Cut Off, Louisiana

Do you guys/gals see anything negative about doing morning to noon nest checks once egg laying and the incubation phase is complete. On several occasions I've asked myself the question because it seems it would be advantageous to inspect the nest when the outside temperatures are cooler rather than hot to help eliminating a secondary stress input which may contribute to stress related jumping of nestlings. Also, this can sometimes be easier on landlords from a scheduling standpoint.
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37
2025-42 Pair, 202 Fledged
HOSP count 46
Martintown33
Posts: 1366
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Hi thomabear.. I prefer to do nest checks, after 1 pm.. from what I’ve observed, the parents are very active feeding in the morning… makes sense , bcuz the chicks haven’t eaten all night. I notice the feeding pace slows down in the afternoon, a bit, and lots of times the chicks are sleeping at that time. This too makes sense, to conserve their energy being calm at the hottest time of the day. When they are very young , the chicks hardly even wake up when I do nest checks.. obviously as they get older they scoot around during nest checks.. but if your schedule only allows you to do nest checks in the morning, I would just try to do them as quickly as possible. Early nest checks are better than no nest checks, right?
Good luck,
Rob
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Laplace, La
C.C.Martins
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Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Gotta remember too a chicks body temp is 103 degrees. Cooler temps aren't more advantageous to them.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
Thomabear
Posts: 484
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:10 am
Location: Cut Off, Louisiana

Thanks for the replies. What you guys said makes perfect sense to me. Being retired It's very rare that I have to do morning checks. It's been bugging me so I had to ask. I didn't think about the key points yall have made.
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37
2025-42 Pair, 202 Fledged
HOSP count 46
John Barrow
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Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:12 pm
Location: Corpus Christi / Sandia , Texas

Thomabear,

Egg laying is typically in the early hours of morning. Louise and I are doing nest checks starting around 11 am. If left to afternoon options we are squeezing in an hour around 500 pm. When I was banding we often started pulling nestlings around 9 am, doing multiple colonies throughout the morning. The only potential conflict with egg laying IMO, was doing during geolocator projects that started at fist light; but at a time when egg laying had pretty much ended. I see no problem with nest checks right now in LA starting at 10 or 11 am.
And you're right the heat has been brutal this season.
~~TEAMED WITH A MARTIN GODDESS~~

Member/Mentor-PMCA. I do regular nestchecks and participate in PROJECT MARTINWATCH!! Coordinated 3 geolocator studies-2009, 2010 & 2013. State and Fed licensed bander (retired Jan., 2020)
Thomabear
Posts: 484
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:10 am
Location: Cut Off, Louisiana

Good information! Thanks for sharing John
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37
2025-42 Pair, 202 Fledged
HOSP count 46
Conrad Baker
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Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:43 pm
Location: Paulina, Louisiana

I try to do mine mid-afternoon if the adults are away. But right now they seem to be in a feeding frenzy feeding the young, so I'm not doing any right now. Even though I only have three houses, it seems to take a little longer than I care to disturb them. I guess what I'm trying to say is I would do the nest check when there is the least activity, but as stated earlier, the adults are real busy right now constantly feeding the younguns.
Thomabear
Posts: 484
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:10 am
Location: Cut Off, Louisiana

Got ya Conrad. I can relate to the feeding frenzy. I added a 24 compartment rack and filled 22 of them. Seems Martins are everywhere all day long. My nest checks are in the afternoon but I thought I would throw the question out there in case of the rare occasion I have to check in the morning.
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37
2025-42 Pair, 202 Fledged
HOSP count 46
Conrad Baker
Posts: 754
Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:43 pm
Location: Paulina, Louisiana

I don't think it would cause any problems, especially if they are used to your presence.
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