Growing a colony, some early observations.

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roblrich

If anyone read any of my posts last January and February, I mentioned that I had an established colony of approx 24 pair, my gourds were at 100% occupancy, and I wanted to grow my colony. With help from the forum as I had never prepared naturals before, I tried some natural gourds this season, preparing approx 40. I have expanded my housing by more than doubling my gourds. I think I have made all the changes, additions, etc that I am going to make so I now have 63 gourds on 6 racks.

I guess with anyone trying to grow a colony like I am, they would experience the same deal that I am presently experiencing. I am estimating that I have approx 40 adults at the moment with arrivals daily it seems. This is way ahead of schedule for me, but then, I never had the amount of gourds that I have available this season. But I am so overwhelmed with ASY males at the moment, probably out numbering my females 3-1. I am sure I am getting quite a few ASY males that were subbies last year and didn't mate or ASY males that were not successful in reproducing last season.

I am in need of females badly for these males. I realize that it is still very early, but this was enough to raise my eyebrow. Subbies haven't started to arrive as of yet, and surely there will be females available when they do. But then, there will be the addition of subby males arriving also.

Another observation is that these martins will quickly adapt to the crescent entrances. But they definitely prefer porches not flush with the entrance bottom. My excluder gourds, all my supergourds with metal porches, natural gourds with porches attached below the entrance, etc were all taken before any with flush porches were. They are starting to use them, but as I said, they prefer them not to be flush. Someone on the forum, I forget his name, but he posted several times that flush porches are somewhat hard on the martins, and from my observations I agree. Anyways, my large, brand new natural gourds with flush porches (which is the majority of my naturals) were not touched until all the others were filled. I even strategically placed them where Supergourds were last season. Don't kill the messenger, it's just an observation.

I have a neighbor that put up several gourd racks and has those very small, plastic gourds with round holes. AND HE ATTRACTED SEVERAL ASY's! I WAS FLABBERGASTED. His racks are within 20 feet of trees, right on top of his house, etc. The only thing his site had that mine didn't was round holes. So I threw up another rack with round hole supergourds that I had tucked away in my shed. I think I put a dent in his martin total as these gourds filled within two days. Hey, it was for the benefit of the martins. :twisted:

Anyways, I wanted to share this surplus male situation as I am hoping for comments from landlords that have experienced something similar. I understand it's early and not unusal to have more males then females this time of season. But at this ratio? If the gender ratio doesn't get any better soon, I feel for these females. It could get rough.
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Hi Robert!

When our arrivals appeared in South Texas, a large percentage of them were males as well. However, within one week the population started to become "even". You might be experiencing the same. Perhaps the females will arrive soon.

Sue
City by the Sea, TX
Emil Pampell-Tx
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Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

Robert, early in the seaon I had about 50 males and about 10 females, it has all evened out since then, now I think I have more females. Males always are more numerous early in the seaon
roblrich

Thanks guys. I keep telling myself that also, but I have never had this many units available, and I thought maybe I had committed a cardinal sin or something, by expanding my housing so much, so I am getting all the misfit males that couldn't get a mate last year.

See how I over think things?

Seems like with the good weather, I noticed more females around today. There is no way for me to tell for sure, but by watching all day today, it seems like I have approx 30 males to 14 females. No subbies as of yet although I see four reports of subadults in Kentucky thus far.

There was also nest building in 3 gourds this morning, but they stopped at noon when they went to feed. That is way early for my colony. But then, maybe I didn't pay as much attention in the past as I am this year.

Glad to see you back Emil.
John Miller
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Robert

I wonder if the ratio of males to females already back is not as out of balance as it might seem.

I've had several occasions last year and now this year to watch a single ASY male bring in females off and on throughout the day to a new site, sometimes two females at once, and they seldom stay more than a minute. Yet the guy hangs around the house for long periods by himself. If you multiply this by 10 or 20 at your place, maybe it's the same. Maybe the uncommitted gals are out there somewhere, while males sit on the houses more?

John Miller
CurtWelling
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Location: Versailles, KY

Where are you in central KY? I'm in Versailles.

Don't worry, about your sex ratio, those guys know how to find the babes.

I have lots of birds right now, lots of squabbling but little if any pairing off and no nest building. It's still like Jr. High. About 2-3 more weeks will be high school and then comes the serious mating.
Curt Welling
roblrich

CurtWelling wrote:Where are you in central KY? I'm in Versailles.
I am near the adair/green/taylor county lines. You could triangulate my property (almost) from Columbia, Greensburg, and Campbellsville. If you drew a circle using those towns, I am in the center.
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