One Lesson Learned and One Question
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Billy Stephens
- Posts: 97
- Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 2:29 pm
- Location: South Carolina/New Ellenton
First the lesson learned. I posted this picture last year, (I think this is the same one) and someone commented on how the pine straw looked, like I ran it through a grinder to make it softer. I was getting the straw from the edge of my driveway where it had been run over by our vehicles. Some of you might remember the post. I thought this "softer bedding" would be a good idea. Then one day while out in the yard, I noticed something peculiar. At first I thought it was rather comical until I realized it was a martin hanging upside down, with its claw caught in the pine straw. My son and I released it and I cant say for certain if it ever came back. While it seemed like it would make nice, comfortable bedding, some of it had the texture similar to the artificial grass that you put into Easter baskets. I did not realize this would create a problem. Needless to say, today I replaced all bedding in my gourds with new straw in its natural state. Now for the question. I have had two racks up the last couple of years. A total of 24 gourds. Last year, even though I had plenty of Martins stay for a while, all in one rack. I had only two mating pairs. The Martins do investigate my second rack, but none have stayed the night in it that I know of. Should I even bother with the second rack until the first one is nearly full? I thought by putting two up, the extra housing would make my site look more inviting. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Billy
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Tim Stover
- Posts: 505
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:04 pm
- Location: Tennesse/Madisonville
i would put them all up the more the better here some just want their own rack like their starting their own little colony this is my opinion
2009 2pair 2010 24pair 2011 106 pair
2012 124 pair
2013 145
2014 170 pair
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2012 124 pair
2013 145
2014 170 pair
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MingjoMartins
- Posts: 312
- Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:28 pm
- Location: Pataskala, OH
Billy - I would put up both racks - my first year I had 3 pair across 3 different types of housing (gourd, T14 wooden, and PVC). Last year I had birds spread out to all 4 offerings (gourds, T14 wooden, PVC, and Metal Trendsetter). I think they like choices, and I think it's helps especially with SY males and picky females who want to explore different offerings. Good luck to u!
John
John
2013 - 37 pair-179 eggs,142 hatched,139 fledged
2012 - 32 pair-163 eggs,141 hatched,134 fledged
2011 - 19 pairs - 78 fledged successfully!
2010 3 pairs - 9 eggs - 8 fledged!
2009 - 1 Sub Adult Male (only) - LOTS visitors
2008 - 58 Visitors by year end
2007 - 13 Visitors by year end
2012 - 32 pair-163 eggs,141 hatched,134 fledged
2011 - 19 pairs - 78 fledged successfully!
2010 3 pairs - 9 eggs - 8 fledged!
2009 - 1 Sub Adult Male (only) - LOTS visitors
2008 - 58 Visitors by year end
2007 - 13 Visitors by year end
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Emil Pampell-Tx
- Posts: 6743
- Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26 pm
- Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
- Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas
I don't think that it will ever happen again that a martin will get his feet caught in pine straw. My opinion is that something unusual like that may happen, but I sure would not worry about it or do anything different.
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
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flyin-lowe
- Posts: 3792
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
- Location: Indiana/Henry Co.
If it is bothering you then I would not soften them like you do and just stick them in there as you find them. There are thousands of landlords who can vouch for the fact that the martins will use them straight off the ground. If you feel better making them softer then go that route, they won't mind either way.
2026 HOSP 29
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
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Doug Martin - PA
- Posts: 1988
- Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:47 am
- Location: Pennsylvania/Fombell
- Martin Colony History: First pair in 2009 after 28 years of trying. 3 pairs 2010, 17 pairs 2011 and 35-45 pairs since. Many additional colonies are now springing up around mine in an area once completely void of Martins. I offer 50 compartments at my site consisting of primarily Excluder II gourds on Gemini racks. Also a wooden T-14. I utilize electric fence type predator guards on the base of the poles. Supplemental feeding is crucial in maintaining my colony. I platform feed throughout the season as needed. My site tends to be a stop over point for additional birds as they migrate further north.
Your questions have been answered well. I agree.
I would also agree to leave both racks up. They will expand to it this year. Make sure there are no European wasps or bees in there.
Doug
I would also agree to leave both racks up. They will expand to it this year. Make sure there are no European wasps or bees in there.
Doug
Supplemental feeding plays a major role in Western Pennsylvania. Finally got my 1st pair in 2009 after 28 years of effort. The colony has grown quickly to 45 pairs that I care for. Many new colonies have now sprung up around me in the past few years as well. Where there was none.... there is many.
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Guest
Actually pine needles from the side of the road and driveways are better than straight off the tree,they weave together better,lay flatter and as you say are softer,,,,all pluses in my book.I wouldn't worry about a hang up again.I have never even heard of such a thing and thousands upon thousands have them that way I'm sure.
dick
dick
