Doves in Martin houses.
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Laverne
- Posts: 2216
- Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:58 pm
- Location: TX/Alvin
- Martin Colony History: Erected 1st house in 1997. Birds were checking it out before Mike got down from the ladder. Six cavities had a little colony 1st year. Grown to 88 cavities all gourds with near 100% occupancy. Most important factor for success is rain = bugs.
No, doves build nests on the ground or open cups in trees or even in hanging plant baskets. They are probably just sitting on your PM housing for the height without being harassed by some Mockingbird or Loggerheaded Shrike or Blue Jay or "whatever"!!
I would be truly surprised if doves attempted to nest in your PM housing. Let us know what you see...
Sincerely,
Laverne
I would be truly surprised if doves attempted to nest in your PM housing. Let us know what you see...
Sincerely,
Laverne
Sincerely,
Laverne
Laverne
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ToyinPA
- Posts: 2227
- Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:07 pm
- Location: PA/Avis
- Martin Colony History: The 1972 St. Agnes flood wiped out all the Martins in my area. One day, in 1997-98, 5 or 6 Martins landed on the power wires crossing my back yard. I had no house for them. They kept coming back day after day. We got a martin house a few weeks later & they have been coming back every year since. I average 12-15 pair per year.
I've had Mourning Doves check out my S&K houses this year. Saw them several times, but none have tried to enter or build any nests.
ToyinPA
ToyinPA
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Frank Hargis-IL
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- Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:22 pm
- Location: Illinois/Flora
We have a trio castle that Mourning Doves have nested on. We take the doors and sub floors off the house each fall and replace them next spring. One year the doves started building on the porch and in one cavity before we replaced the doors. The female would usual set on the eggs as I lowered the house for nest checks. I had a good picture of her and the young but can't find it.
Frank
Frank
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GeneP
- Posts: 525
- Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:35 am
- Location: Kansas, Lawrence
- Martin Colony History: 1 gourd rack with 24 gourd capacity. 2018, my 11th year hosting martins.
18 pair in 2017.
I've had Robins try nesting on the porch. Didn't let it happen.
PMCA Member, Single Gourd Rack, 2019 marks 12 years hosting martins.
I was working in the garden this afternoon and noticed a bunch of twigs on the porch. As I was sitting here in the living room I saw the pair return and enter the house. They're not "mourning" doves but the smaller variety ( just a bit larger than martins).
Cool. No martins in this particular house so I'll leave 'em alone.
I've had them build in azaleas and rose bushes but never in a house.
Cool. No martins in this particular house so I'll leave 'em alone.
I've had them build in azaleas and rose bushes but never in a house.
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Louise Chambers
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- Location: Corpus Christi, TX
We have had Inca Doves build on martin house porch - fine until mites swarmed from dove nest into house. We later had a basket made of wire mesh under the PM house for them, and they used it some times but not always.
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John Barrow
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- Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:12 pm
- Location: Corpus Christi / Sandia , Texas
Siberman,
As Louise mentioned we have had inca doves nest on our Goliad porch--one year--and in a wire basket I attached underneath for one or two more years.
I would like to supplement by adding to Louise's post my suggestion that, if the doves have not laid eggs and are starting to nestbuild, I would tear down the partial nest and discourage them from building there. Inca doves breed 3-4 times a year--mine usually produced two young per brood. They will leave their nest sooner than martins and before they can fly. Having their nests on your martin house will defeat, or restrict, your ability to do nestchecks or access the housing in case of problems. When the young doves reach about 10 days old they will readily jump off of the system if you attempt to lower or access it, without ability to fly or protect themselves. If young enough you can replace them on the nest, which might require a ladder. But while still needing to manage your martin system, they will reach an age where they will bail out and you won't be able to successfully replace them. As Laverne mentioned, there are many other suitable nesting sources---hanging baskets, tree snags, etc., that won't interfere with managing the martin system.
As Louise mentioned we have had inca doves nest on our Goliad porch--one year--and in a wire basket I attached underneath for one or two more years.
I would like to supplement by adding to Louise's post my suggestion that, if the doves have not laid eggs and are starting to nestbuild, I would tear down the partial nest and discourage them from building there. Inca doves breed 3-4 times a year--mine usually produced two young per brood. They will leave their nest sooner than martins and before they can fly. Having their nests on your martin house will defeat, or restrict, your ability to do nestchecks or access the housing in case of problems. When the young doves reach about 10 days old they will readily jump off of the system if you attempt to lower or access it, without ability to fly or protect themselves. If young enough you can replace them on the nest, which might require a ladder. But while still needing to manage your martin system, they will reach an age where they will bail out and you won't be able to successfully replace them. As Laverne mentioned, there are many other suitable nesting sources---hanging baskets, tree snags, etc., that won't interfere with managing the martin system.
~~TEAMED WITH A MARTIN GODDESS~~
Member/Mentor-PMCA. I do regular nestchecks and participate in PROJECT MARTINWATCH!! Coordinated 3 geolocator studies-2009, 2010 & 2013. State and Fed licensed bander (retired Jan., 2020)
Member/Mentor-PMCA. I do regular nestchecks and participate in PROJECT MARTINWATCH!! Coordinated 3 geolocator studies-2009, 2010 & 2013. State and Fed licensed bander (retired Jan., 2020)
