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Perry D. Vogel
Posts: 163
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:08 pm
Location: North Dakota/Grand Forks

I would like to hear from all of you trying to become landlords.

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)?
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have?
How many units do you have available?
How many units do you have open?
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young?
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event?
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site?
What is your region/state/location?
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural?
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried?
What are your site competitors?

Perry D. Vogel
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Guest

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Plastic
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 1
How many units do you have available? 6
How many units do you have open? 6
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? No
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? Maybe. Don't think so...
What is your region/state/location? Lexington, KY
Are you located urban or rural? Suburban, Horsefarms less than a mile from my house. Downtown is about 1 1/2 miles away.
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? Yes.
What are your site competitors? Starlings, Sparrows, Tree Swallows
Guest

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)?

1 8 cavity vertical compartment house built of wood, one aluminum Heath Hex with double compartments.


How many house poles or gourd poles do you have?
3 poles, three houses total (one of them experimental)

How many units do you have available?
a total of 23 compartments


How many units do you have open?
same

Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young?

11 pairs in 2007- owl attacks which caused 9 pairs to abandon. Two pairs had fledged young.

Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event?
Owl attacks

Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site?
1 unestablished site (new) within 1/4 mile. One established site 3 miles away.

What is your region/state/location?
North central Texas

Are you located urban, suburban, or rural?
Rural

Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried?
Currently in process of setting up sound system for plalying dawnsong and chatter.

What are your site competitors?
S&S- especially growing over the past year.
Gobbler T
Posts: 1518
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:13 am
Location: Mississippi / Columbus

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? natural
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 1
How many units do you have available? 6
How many units do you have open? 6
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? NO!!!
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? no
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? yes 9 (run down)
What is your region/state/location? MS
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Rural subdivision
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? yes and yes
What are your site competitors? gnat catcher, sparrows, ,sparrows, sparrows, sparrows, sparrows :!: :lol:
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Tony


2007 --- 0 2011---0 2015---4
2008 --- 0 2012---0 16-19—0
2009 --- 0 2013---1 2020—?
2010 --- 0 2014---3
Guest

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Wood T-14, 2 gourds and a small single room house
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 1
How many units do you have available? 17
How many units do you have open? All
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? No
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? N/A
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? Not that I know of
What is your region/state/location? North East Illinois
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Suburban
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? All
What are your site competitors? S&S,
What type of entrance holes? Variety of all SREH's and a few round holes.
How many years trying? This is my 2nd
Do your family and friends think your nuts. Most if not all
Hey Starlings, I got something for you....Image
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Caroline94535-ND
Posts: 337
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:12 am
Location: North Dakota/Larimore
Martin Colony History: Will add later

I'm located to your north west by about 30 miles...(As you know! :grin: )

Housing types - Natural and SuperGourds, some are modified with air vents, tunnel entrances, porches, textured PPCA added inside for traction, and tubes through the hanging holes.

How many poles do you have? One

How many units do you have available? 8

How many units do you have open? 8

Have you ever had martins? Yes, each year since I first began in 2003

If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? I'll have to search for my info for the numbers, but each year, after the sad first one, all my pairs have successfully fledged all their chicks. I've never had more than 11 gourds.

Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? Thankfully, no.

However, after hosting a colony on the Air Force base for five years, we moved after my DH retired. Last year was the first season in this new town and starting a new colony. For 2008 I had only one nesting pair; they successfully fledged their five chicks.

The female died during the last week; the male had to finish feeding and fledging them by himself. He was a real trooper. I had dozens of visitors in mid- and late-August so I'm hoping for more birds this year.


Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site?

There are many broken down, wooden, non-moveable houses around town. Very few have any martins in them; all are overrun with sparrows. I hope to convince some of the owners to let me "manage" or remove these houses. I'm going to offer to purchase them, as long as the bird funds hold out.

There is one colony about a mile or so away, just outside of town.


What is your region/state/location? Larimore, in North eastern North Dakota.

Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? HaHaHa! I live in an area that is considered a "town." There are three houses on my side of the block; one is empty. There are four houses on the other side of the block; two are empty. It's very quiet here, which is good for the birds.

Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? Yes

What methods have you tried? I use decoys, Daytime Chatter and Dawn Song CDs, I premake nests in the gourds, and I smear mud on the entrances. I would wear a purple feathered costume and flap my arms if it would help.

What are your site competitors? My first season on base, 2003, I was overrun with sparrows. After dispatching more than 500 of them over two seasons, I no longer had a problem.

I did trap a few starlings, but they seemed to arrive and try to nest long before the Purple Martins appeared.

I had one pair of sparrows bothering my rack last season. I trapped and killed them, too.
~ Not all those who wander are lost.
Gobbler T
Posts: 1518
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:13 am
Location: Mississippi / Columbus

Perry D. Vogel
Just curious, Why?
Tony


2007 --- 0 2011---0 2015---4
2008 --- 0 2012---0 16-19—0
2009 --- 0 2013---1 2020—?
2010 --- 0 2014---3
Billy Stephens
Posts: 97
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 2:29 pm
Location: South Carolina/New Ellenton

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? PLASTIC
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 1
How many units do you have available? 12, 4- SUPER GOURDS, 8-6" GOURDS
How many units do you have open? ALL
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? NO
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event?
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? NOT SURE
What is your region/state/location? AIKEN SC
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? RURAL
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? DAWNSONG, ATLEAST 3 MARTINS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10 DAYS NOW!!!
What are your site competitors? TREE SWALLOWS HAVENT SEEN THEM ON GOURDS THOUGH. BLUE BIRDS [/b]
Perry D. Vogel
Posts: 163
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:08 pm
Location: North Dakota/Grand Forks

gobbler T wrote:Just curious, Why?
I am an analyst so I am putting together a spreadsheet to find a pattern. I would like to see those of you who have been waiting for years to become actual landlords. I have been reading this forum for some time now and it just seems that there is a pattern, but I need all your feedback to pinpoint. I know there are going to be some obvious reasons (12 Reasons Why People Lose Their Martins), but there must be a way to attract a colony or re-attract a colony. I have got some theories. I am good at seeing details through all of the obvious. You all know the situation, when everything seems right, but you have zero Purple Martins.

:cry: :arrow: :grin:
Best Regards

Perry D. Vogel
President, Cofounder
Phone +1 (218) 781 - 3689
Email [email protected]
Purple Martin Association of the Dakotas
Grand Forks, North Dakota
shop.PurpleMartinDakotas.org
Guest

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Metal
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 2
How many units do you have available? 26
How many units do you have open? 26
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? As of this morning's check: 12 pairs, 11 Nest with eggs, total of 47 eggs, 7 babies.Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? Ike took a toll, had to put up additional housing in same general area.Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? yes, many.
What is your region/state/location? On Lake Livingston, Texas.
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Rural
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? None.
What are your site competitors? Used to have many Starlings, but the SREH and the repeating trapped have stopped that completely. (21 Starlings caught this year so far.) One pair of persistant EHS, but I think they are finally frustrated with my weekly nest removals and have left.
Gobbler T
Posts: 1518
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:13 am
Location: Mississippi / Columbus

Perry,
Thank you for your response. I have been trying for 3 years, and nothing! I wish you and all the rest of us the best of success.
Tony


2007 --- 0 2011---0 2015---4
2008 --- 0 2012---0 16-19—0
2009 --- 0 2013---1 2020—?
2010 --- 0 2014---3
JamesinIA
Posts: 329
Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:43 am
Location: Iowa/Wellman

This is my 4th year trying.
I have a cedar T14, two super gourds and two Troyer horizontals.
All on one pole.
18 units available.
All but 4 are open so I can monitor the s&s.
I have never had any martins stay, some lookers though.
I believe the closest colony is 3 or 4 miles away and lots of them 5 to 10 miles from me.
I live in south eastern Iowa.
I live on the very edge of a small town could be considered rural.
I have 2 decoys, play the dawnsong, make prenests w/pine straw and smear mud around the entrances and inside.
Starlings and sparrows in abundance which I eliminate as soon as possible.
James
2009 One ASY pair 5 eggs 5 fledged 2010 2 pair 5 fledged 2011 8 pair 27 fledged 2012 14 pair 38 fledged
2013 20 pair 64 fledged 2014 19 pair fledged 84 2015 26 pair fledged 124 2016 36 pair fledged 156 2017 40 pair fledged 156
PMCA member
pillow
Posts: 83
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:38 pm
Location: Arkansas/Conway

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? 2 metal houses, 4 plastic gourds
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 2
How many units do you have available? 22
How many units do you have open? 22
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? 2 pair in 2007. None fledged.
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? Hawk pulled first hatchling from house. I witnessed the event.
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? Yes. 3 sites with one pair each. They are sparrow and starling infested slum houses.
What is your region/state/location? Central Arkansas
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Urban-Neighborhood
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? Yes-decoys, cd, pre nests, mud dams, mud on entrances.
What are your site competitors? Starlings and HOSP. I have eliminated hundreds of them and they don't frequent my yard very often any more.

One negative factor at my site is that there are trees within 30 feet of my housing. My wife will not allow any tree cutting. All the sites in the vicinity of my house are about as open as my site is.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3792
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Wood and plastic

How many house poles or gourd poles do you have?
1 Pole with perches, 1 pole with T14 and 4 Big Bo's

How many units do you have available?
18

How many units do you have open?
18
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young?
No

Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event?
N/A

Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site?
No, Closest is about 6 miles

What is your region/state/location?
East central Indiana

Are you located urban, suburban, or rural?
Rural

Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried?
Dawn song and decoys

What are your site competitors?
Sparrows mainly. I use SREH and have seen some starlings try to enter but they usually leave pretty quick
Al Denton
Posts: 1468
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:31 pm
Location: Carolina Shores NC
Martin Colony History: New site and housing for 2018...Trendsetter 12. 1 pair of subs. Fledged 5...2019...11 pairs

Perry D. Vogel wrote:I would like to hear from all of you trying to become landlords.

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Plastic..Troyer Horizontals with tunnels.
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 1
How many units do you have available? 4
How many units do you have open? 2
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? Yes... one pair 06 and one pair in 07. Fledged a total of 10
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? Not sure. My ASY male didn't return in 08. Possibly aged out or didn't make the migration.
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? No...closest being 6 miles away.
What is your region/state/location? Raleigh NC
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? urban
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? Dawnsong tape.
What are your site competitors? Starlings and sparrows

Perry D. Vogel
Dennis D
Posts: 396
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:49 am
Location: Illinois/Swansea

I would like to hear from all of you trying to become landlords.

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Trio castle, 2 Grandpa's. 7 gourds
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? 2 poles for everything.
How many units do you have available? 25
How many units do you have open? 25
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? Yes. For the last 5 years. Last year 15 Pair fledged.
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? NO, not yet.
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? Used to be when I was trying. Don't know of any now.
What is your region/state/location? Southern Illinois
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Suburban
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? Used dawnsong, mirrors and decoys.
What are your site competitors? S&S, Coopers hawks last 2 years
Dennis D
diane davis-ms
Posts: 131
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:29 am
Location: Baxterville, ms
Martin Colony History: Last colony I had was in 2015.

what are your houseing types? PLASTIC,NATURAL GOURD'S.
how many house poles or guard poles do you have? 4
how many units do you have available? 46
how many units do you have open? 46
have you ever had martins? YES
if so how many pair successfully fledged? 4PR IN 2008 WAS MY FIRST YEAR TO GET MARTINS.
was there an event that caused you to loose your colony? NO
are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? YES 2 ACTIVE.
what is your reigon/state/location? COLUMBIA,MISSISSIPPI.
are you located urban,suburban,rual? RURAL IN THE COUNTRY.
do you use decoy's, tapes or other attraction methods? YES, DAWN SONG CD,PINE STRAW,DECOYS,SMEAR A LITTLE MUDD ON ENTRANCES OF NEW PLASTIC HOUSES,MARTINS SEEM TO LAND ON AND GO IN ENTRANCES BETTER IF IT LOOKS USED.
what are your site competitors? HAWKS,SPARROWS,BLUE BIRDS,AND A GREAT HORNED OWL THAT TOOK ONE OF MY MARTINS THIS YEAR.
purple martin addict!
pmca member.
2015 sy's males here hoping for new colony!
Fred Kaluza~MI
Posts: 606
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:40 pm
Location: Port Huron, Michigan
Martin Colony History: Tried and tried and had some visitors but...not enough good insects around here to keep them interested.

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? (All four)
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? (3)
How many units do you have available? (Twenty-Eight)
How many units do you have open? (Same)
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? (No)
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? (No)
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? (No)
What is your region/state/location? Great Lakes/MI/Warren
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? (Suburban)
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? (Dawnsong/Daychatter/Decoys/Mirrors)
What are your site competitors?(HOSP/EUST/HOWR)
You forgot to ask the most important question of all..."Are there any Purple Martins in your area or do you ever see any around?" (Maybe 3 per year, all in August through September)
How long have you been trying?...(9 years)
Guest

Perry D. Vogel wrote:I would like to hear from all of you trying to become landlords.

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Plastic
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? one
How many units do you have available? 12
How many units do you have open? 12
Have you ever had martins? no
If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? none
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? no
If so, what was that event? none
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? yes
What is your region/state/location? South middle Tennessee
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Rural
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? decoys, dawnsong tape
What are your site competitors? starlings

Perry D. Vogel
Guest

What are your housing types (wood, metal, plastic, natural, or other)? Plastic
How many house poles or gourd poles do you have? Two
How many units do you have available? 20
How many units do you have open? 8
Have you ever had martins? If so, how many pair successfully fledged young? Never
Was there an event that caused you to lose your colony? If so, what was that event? N/A
Are there other colonies within 1/4-1/2 mile of your site? No
What is your region/state/location? Southern Middle Tennessee
Are you located urban, suburban, or rural? Rural
Do you use decoys, tapes, or other attraction methods? If so, what methods have you tried? Decoys
What are your site competitors? Starlings
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