I NEED HELP FAST ON ALLEN WRENCH NUT ON DELUXE RACK!!!

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John Atteberry

Hello everyone,
I forgot to post this earlier today about my trouble with the deluxe gourd rack! I was getting busy putting both poles up. The allen set screw that is in the gourd rack that you tighten after putting both poles together will not tighten! It's the one on the top, the one on the bottom tightens with no problem, But the one on top keeps going around with no tightening at all. I'm afraid this will make the pole weak. Did anyone have this problem before? This is a new rack that I bought last year! What can I do? To make it tighten? Replace it and how? This must of been a defect somehow! I know I didn't overtighten it last year. What do you all think? Thanks John!
Joe Levins
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I'm not familar with this kind of rack. What size is the screw? You can retread the hole for the next size screw. Use a treading tap. If the screw now is a 1/4 drill the hole with a 1/4 bit and tap it with a 5/16 tap. if it is a 5/16 screw drill the hole with a 5/16 and tap with 3/8 tap. It seems like the original treads are stripped. Joe
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John,

I believe I have the same gourd rack. I haven't taken it apart but have planned on it this winter to spray some WD-40 in the top pulleys. You might contact PMCA or link not allowed to find out if you can order a new sleeve with allen screws that fits inside the two square poles. :P :P
John Atteberry

Hello Ed,
I just put oil on my pulleys and they work great and smooth, I think WD-40 will only work short term. Let me know I'll give you the name of the oil! Thanks John!
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briansupernaw
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John,

Is this the gourd rack that holds 4 gourds and has aluminum poles in 2 halves along with an inner sleeve which acts as a connection link? If so, I think I know what you are talking about. Is the inner sleeve in place by threaded inserts that leave a flush outer surface when done??

If this is it, I noticed one posting which suggested to re-tap the thread the next size bigger. That would be a good fix and leave the setup the same as before.

I would also like to give a suggestion which is an alternative if you can't get the hole re-tapped successfully. this may however limit the travel of the gourd carriage as you lower the pulley. I would simply drill the hole all the way through both tubes and install a bolt with a nut on the other side. I initially did this on the bottom set screw location because of my fear of having that inner link drop down out of reach during future setups and take downs. This may limit your downward travel of the gourd carriage when done and you may need to use a stepstool from now on to look inside. You might get lucky and still be able to see inside without a step stool if your lower pole is extra deep in the ground.

I attached a pic of what I think the config is. Brian
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John Atteberry

Hello Brian, Thanks for the advice and you were correct but the manufacture who makes the pole said it will be alright if the threaded inserts don't tighten. It was made for the rack that holds 24 gourds and that is when you have to tighten the threaded inserts. They said the gravity and weight of the 12 gourds will keep the pole strong! So I will leave it at that! HA! Thanks John!
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