Tragedy in Oklahoma

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Hi all

I am new to the forum, but I need to vent. I was checking my houses this morning as usual and heard a commotion in on of the compartments. A ASY female was sitting on the porch looking in while something was struggling to get out. After looking closer I noticed it was a european starling trying to get out of the compartment. By the way all of my housing has SREHs. I thought ah ha, trapped are you? I lowered the house and discovered why he could not get out. To my horror there was a dead ASY male inside the entrance partially blocking the exit. He was defending his nest and must have put up a good fight but didn't stand a chance against this devil. At least he was able to prevent the escape of this murderer. I removed the Martin and blocked the exit so the starling could not escape. The Martin was still barely alive but soon died while cupped in my hands. :cry: After a few minutes I regained my composure and went after the trapped starling, he was dispatched with extreme prejudice at point blank range while still in the rear compartment.

I share this for those who may be wavering about destroying S&S, don't give up. I have a sparrow trap which helps, but my new best friend is a Beeman R7 with a Swift 3x9x40 air rifle scope, it is deadly accurate. I highly recommend it for urban settings. Unfortunately we are overrun with S&S here in central Oklahoma, and I fear I am fighting a loosing battle. The life of one Martin is not worth all the S&S in the world. :x

Rahn
Emil Pampell-Tx
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Rahn, sorry to hear about the male martin, and I completely agree with every word in your post...I feel the same way..
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Frank Hargis-IL
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Rahn,

I too feel the same way and agree with your post. Just wanted to add - Ain't it just too bad all those who don't want the S&S destroyed couldn't have been with you to see what the S&S can do!!

sorry for your trouble, luck the rest of the year.

Frank
abernathys
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Rahn--I so sorry that has happened, its a horrible feeling and I agree with they way you handled the situation. I would have done the same.
Good luck with the rest of your season.

Sandy
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Dick Sherry
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Rahn, that is a shame you lost a martin to a starling. What type of SREH was it able to get through?
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Dick, It is the standard 1-3/16" high crescent, bottom 1/4" above the floor. I have seen starlings get into them before, they will lay on their side and struggle through. It is rare but it has happened. This is one tough and determined bird. I guess thats why they are SResistantEH not SProofEH.
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Rahn the good thing about living in the country is a 12 gauge 3 inch magnum shotgun with # 4 turkey loads!!!!!!!!!!! Luckt I guess but I have yet to see 1 starling or Sparrow here yet this year......
Scully
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We have had starlings enter our crescents with some regularity, Natureline and Supergourd both, the Supergourds with a metal porch and the Naturelines with a cling rod both set 1/4" below the entrance. They do indeed wriggle in, with feet sticking straight out behind in the air as they enter.

On the other hand over the two years we have been using them we have never had a starling enter our S&K crescents with the porch mounted flush with the bottom of the crescent. Perhaps a flush mounted crescent is the key to effectiveness.

Our WDC modified excluder Supergourds are so far 0 for 10. None at all of our 10 Supergourds so equipped suffered a starling entry last year, even though the porches are set at least 1/4" below the entrance.

Mike Scully
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No porches. No starlings. In Natureline with crescents.
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