I need a pellet gun

[Guest]

Any one have a suggestion for a pellet gun that will shoot about 25-30 yds
accurately for between $50 and $100 . Early this year I bought a crossman pump for about $55. It was light and not real accurate but it killed 5 sparrows this year. But it quite working,and I had to junk it. It was supposed to shoot at about 800 fps (I don't think it did)
I've looked at single cock barrel break models. They are verry heavy and expensive.
Maby I need a good old Red Rider.
I will buy on line if I can get a good deal.
Any suggestions will be appreciated

[RC Moser]

I've had good luck with daisy model 822 pump up .22 cal., but you got to buy a good scope 32MM or larger like BSA or Bushnell sportman. Have great luck with Crosman's 2100 and 2200 pump ups. But again you got to buy a good scope if you have tired eyes. These guns run around 60 to 75 bucks regular price and you can catch them on sale. I found the 2100 a couple of years ago in the sportman guide for 19.00 bucks. Best buy I even made. These guns have good balance not too light or too heavy and feel like rifles not pop guns.

I don't like spring guns cause I can't get them to repeat, But it probably me, I've shot rifles too long to change my routine. Others have excellent resulted with them and I'm sure you'll get some recommendations. 850 FPS or higher starts around 80 bucks and most go for around $150 to $400 or higher.

Good scopes start out about 35 bucks, better scopes run 60 to 85 bucks. Well the best the price it almost bottomless. Shop around online and several stores that sells sporting goods to get a good price on a reasonably good gun and scope it you need a scope.

IMO the best air rifles on the market are PCP's (precharged) meaning you have a highly pressurized tank that the rifle operates from (kind of like the 10 pump-up models, but without the pump-up every time or the gas bottle models like a paintball gun).

IMO the best bang for the buck in PCPs is the BSA tech star starting at about 375 bucks, but you have to have a air source to charge the rifle to 3000 PSI. This is done by three ways; A special air compressor for BIG BUCKS, a scuba tank with adapter valve for probably 100 to 150 bucks. Or a air pump like and old tire pump-up at about 200 bucks. So now your 400 dollar rifle has turned in to 550 or 600 bucks. Now you got to have a really good scope to to reap the benifits of shooting dime size groups at 35 yards. Add another 100 to 400 bucks for the scope so you can dial the range in and if you do everything right you'll drop the E. Sparrow at 35 yards. But, if you miss it won't be the rifle.

Top of the line PCPs start out at about $850 and can be as high as 3000 bucks. I want one but can't justify the cost due to I rarely shoot pass 60 feet. which my three or four out of 6 that I have can hit the dime 9 out of ten times. So to sum this up examine your needs and budget and spend wisely.

[Laverne]

We use a BB gun. It's a Crossman 66 Powermaster. It came with a scope. We don't have very far to shoot. Our housing is placed within 30 feet of the shed we hide behind or inside of to shoot.

I'm not sure it matters so much what kind of gun you use. Trapping works well, too. The most important thing is to never let them successfully raise young in your housing. We have a war with a sparrow every season. We have the advantage because the sparrow is defenseless against humans - but, they are deadly against Purple Martins. Without the human landlord to protect them, the Purple Martins will slowly lose the battle with the sparrow.

Being consistently persistent and keeping your housing starling and sparrow free will reward you and your colony with long periods of peaceful contentment. But don't be lulled to sleep, they come back and try again and the first thing they do is break a few more eggs.

[CUL Lou~Mich]

Phiko. Go to www.cummins.com. Look under air guns. They have one for $19.95. It's made in China, single cock. I'm told it's nearly impossible to sight in a scope without shimming it. I've been using it open sights (Which I detest. I'm a died in the wool scope man myself.) and have had sensational good luck. I had to pretty much rethink my shooting and I'm 62 years old, so it is possible to teach an old dog new tricks. This air rifle is .177 but it seems to repeat just fine for me. I've killed nearly every EHS and EUST that I've shot at. Once I got it to kill a circle on a cardboard box that is. ha ha. If you have trouble finding it, let me know, and I'll post a url for it. Good Luck. CUL Lou
EDIT. Went and found that url. go here. http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,196.htm
They are having a sale right now. If you buy the rifle, and a ten pack of pellets, you save $5.00 of the total. Anyway, this is it. CUL Lou

[Guest]

CUL Lou~Mich,

Are you saying that this rifle has a rail to mount a scope? And your saying scope mounts typically must be shimmed to to get close enough to site in the scope?

Curious if you have shot groups with this gun and can give us an idea how accurate it is. How is the trigger? A rough trigger makes it difficult to hold accurately while releasing.

I have a Daisy PowerLine 880 that just developed problems. It is not that accurate using open sites. Haven't tried it with a scope but probably should. The Daisy factory where they made Daisy pellet rifles for decades is about 10 miles from my house in Rogers, AR. They are now made overseas but they have headquarters in Rogers. I should check with them as they will repair rifles.

If you think I could get a scope on the Chinese rifle I might try it just to play around with. If I knew I could shoot good groups with the Gammo pellet gun at Wal-Mart for around $115 I would buy it and quit playing around. It's a spring rifle and I've never owned one so don't know what to expect.......and I don't know what to expect from the Gammo rifle either.

[John & Linda - KY]

One caution about the Cummins air rifle - it does not have any type of safety. -- JohnP

[CUL Lou~Mich]

John P. You are correct. Thank you for bringing that up. It had slipped my mind because I don't have youngsters. When the grandkids come, the door to my puter room in shut, and off limits.
Hogwild. Yes the rifle does have the grooves for a scope. I didn't try to put a scope on it because I'd read it had to be shimmed. As for groups. I got it close with a cardboard box, then went after Starlings, and House Sparrows. Apparently the groups are close enough, because of the EHS and EUST that I've shot at, all have fell right under the housing except for two. One landed around 30 feet away, dead. The other did escape my view. I know I took off some feathers, but was not able to retrieve it, so I do not count it as a kill. As for the trigger, it is pretty stiff, but once I got used to it, it was fine. The other thing I had to get used to was the rear sight. It has a pretty wide groove, and I had to get used to centering the front sight in it. CUL Lou

[Emil Pampell-Tx]

For that price, even if its made in China, it seems like it would be worth a try! How can you go wrong for 20 to 30 buck?

[robndebby]

I went through all kinds of junk guns. I finally bought a Gamo Hunter 220 from Dick's Sporting Goods. It came with a BSA scope. It shoots a thousand feet per second and is deadly at up to about 40 yards. You need the high feet per second or the intended victim will hear the gun before the pellet gets there. I don't remember exactly how much I paid for it, but I know it was over $100, but I'll never have to buy another one because it came with a lifetime guarantee. Happy hunting.

Rob

[Guest]

i use a 22 long rifle with cb 22 caps they make little noise and they are for shour range i use them for all my animal control