Sparrow on the gourd cam

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MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Not good.

Have a pair of Martins building like crazy in a Troyer horizontal, and that’s the gourd we have a camera in. Mr. Hosp showed up quite a few times on the camera today, he never showed up before. Has anyone ever fashioned something on a stick to sneak up and plug the hole while the rack is in the air? I believe I have a trap that fits in the Troyer, just want to be careful with trapping martins.

Thanks
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

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C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Little jerks. Yep proof of banditry.

Right now you have time, nest building is just going on? Few days anyway. What trap options do you have?

Perhaps give him a nest box to look at near your gourds, put a van ert trap in it and get him.

Iv never, and iv tried, snuck up and plugged a hole he was in successfully. Thought I had one like that once, nope.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
jhcox
Posts: 801
Joined: Thu May 26, 2016 9:23 am
Location: tennesse
Martin Colony History: Started colony in 2014. 0 pairs
2015 0 pairs
2016 0 pairs
2017 0 pairs but visitors
2018 1 pair fledged 5
2019 10 pair
2020 25 pair
2021 42 Pair
2022 60 Pair
2023 72 Pair
2024 74 pair
2025 78 pair

If the house sparrow is staying over night and you should be able to tell with the camera in there. You could catch him. You would need a 4 to 6 in long piece of lite weight 4 in PVC. Then tape a bread bag over one end by just placing the opening over the PVC and tapping it on. Then attach a wooden pole to the other end of the PVC about an 1 to 2 inches from the end of the PVC. Then you just place it over end of the gourd the he's in. they will usually fly right out and into the waiting bread bag. when they fly out pull the PVC off of the entrance and bring it down to the ground quickly and dispose of the HS. Good luck

JHCox Heiskell TN
God bless.
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Attempt #1.

The male and female came in within a couple minutes of setting it up. I wasn’t ready and they flew away unstarteled. Tomorrow should be the day. 😁
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flyin-lowe
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Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I have become amazed at how smart the HOSP are. Last year I upgraded my air riffle and have been shooting them from an upstairs window in my house. I have killed a bunch of them but now they can tell when my window is slightly open. I have to open it about 8 inches to get a shot at my housing. I work from home and I can slowly slide the window up, they will fly off and not return until I close it. Within minutes of me closing it they will come back.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
Jones4381
Posts: 830
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Southwestern VA
Martin Colony History: 2020- 0
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122
2025 54 Pair -178

flyin-lowe wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 9:05 pm
I have become amazed at how smart the HOSP are. Last year I upgraded my air riffle and have been shooting them from an upstairs window in my house. I have killed a bunch of them but now they can tell when my window is slightly open. I have to open it about 8 inches to get a shot at my housing. I work from home and I can slowly slide the window up, they will fly off and not return until I close it. Within minutes of me closing it they will come back.
^^^^This^^^^ I agree...very aware and full alert once they know they're being hunted..
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Thomas Maddox
Posts: 580
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 pm
Location: Sulphur, Louisiana

Yes! If I shoot and miss, I don't get another shot at them. I wait until they lay eggs and then trap them. Also I keep the ground traps going. My go to now is cracked corn. Easy for them to see and it doesn't degrade like bread does. I did catch a cardinal, but successfully released it.
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Do you guys keep food traps below the Martin housing? As you can see in the picture, I have bluebird houses with van erts close to the rack, but the hosps aren’t interested.

It’s really been a struggle the last month to get hosps in the repeater trap. I don’t currently have it by the gourd rack though.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Good looking set up! Love the blind too!

I don't put the food traps near the gourds, good thought. nest box traps like you have near and within sight of the gourds though. Perhaps turn one trap to face the gourds?

Food traps are up under our overhang in back to catch the stray HOSP... mostly fledges now.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
Thomas Maddox
Posts: 580
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 pm
Location: Sulphur, Louisiana

This year I put my hosp trap on top of my baffle and zip tied to my pole. I put cracked corn in it and have caught many HOSPS in it. The PMs in the gourds above don't seem to mind at all even with the prisoners hopping around and making racket. The PMs don't like to tend to the trap, but quickly settle down when I leave
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Thomas is it the ST1 with 3 compartments? Two to trap, one to hold them?
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
Thomas Maddox
Posts: 580
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 pm
Location: Sulphur, Louisiana

Yes sir it is! It's a great trap. I wish the holding cell was bigger, but still great. I put mine there as we have dogs and my house has woods behind it. Raccoons frequent our yard and once drug it off into the woods when I had it on the ground.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Yes agree with you 100% I love it too.

And yep it will work under the pole, just fine. I pictured a repeating ground sparrow trap under the pole.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
Jeffc
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:13 pm
Location: Council Bluffs, Iowa
Martin Colony History: 2025

Troyer T14 with 8 Horizontal Gourds
Troyer T14 with 8 Veritcal Gourds
Troyer K18 with 18 Horizontal Gourds

48 offered.

2026 - 18 pair.
2025 - 15 pair.
2024 - 8 Pair. HOSP: approximately 15.
2023 - 1 Pair.

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I have 3 repeating traps and 2 wire flip traps about 4 feet from the housing forming a circle around my 3 poles. I put them out every morning and put them away about dusk. I’ve caught about 30 HOSP so far this season and the Martins don’t mind at all. I use combination of cracked corn and white Millet. I also have 2 nest house traps attached to trees that face the Martin housing. These catch starlings and sparrows but also the beautiful Bluebird.
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Thanks for all the input folks. I’m just not good with the pew pew, and trapping the hosps this year is proving tough. Got a few little male fledges in the repeater a couple days ago, but the adults are too dang smart.

I’ll try the repeater under the pole and also get some cracked corn. I’ve been using just millet and feathers so far this year.
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