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brent
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Hi all. Attached is a picture of feathers I found where it was the result of an attack. Generally a hawk will take the whole bird away. This looks like feathers still attached like something could have mauled the bird. Any idea what it could be? 3rd time I've found this. Brent
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Brent
C.C.Martins
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Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
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Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Maybe a scavaged bird Brent? Opossums will chew the wings off and leave just what you took a picture of.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
brent
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Thanks C.C. I read somewhere, might have been on the forum, that owls will tear off the wings before eating. Is that possible? I’m really concerned since this is the 3rd time I’ve found feathers left like this. What do you think? Brent
Brent
Spiderman
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Raccoon will do that.

Owl will pluck the wing and tail feathers one by one and drop them to the ground. Usually an owl will go to tha same tree to do this.

Game camera ($40) from Academy will tell you the answer.
Colony started in 2002

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2019 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 268 MARTINS
2020 - 82 PAIR - FLEDGED 392 MARTINS
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2022 - 76 PAIR - FLEDGED 373 MARTINS
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*2023 Added 2”X4” wire cages to all three Troyer Gemini Gourd Racks to deal with Great Horned Owl predation on Colony.
brent
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How would a raccoon or opossum get the birds? I have electric pole guards that would stop them from climbing. I'll have to get that game camera as you suggest Spiderman.
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Martin Colony History: 2020: 2 pair of SY with 4 eggs ,fledge 7
2021: 5 pair 25 eggs fledge 18, 4 egg 2nd brood attempt
2022: 13 pair 61 eggs fledge 56 added 11 cavs. now 22 total
2023 15 pair 75 eggs fledge 51 only 3 of 11 eggs hatched cavity 10
2024 11 pair 50 eggs fledge
26. 1 renest cav1, cav10 8 eggs 8 fledged 2 couples ASY and Sy

Nice looking set up Brent. How many volts?
Hope you figure it out soon
brent
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Hi. I use the Gallagher S12 Solar Fence Energizer. The whole set up was designed by fellow landlord Thomabear. I simply followed his instructions on setting up the electric pole guards. Not sure on the voltage. Brent
Brent
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Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Brent, honestly think nothing is getting up there. Colony seems normal? Coming and going? Its a good looking set up.
Perhaps some martins just returning perished and were picked up?
That camera will tell you for sure.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
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flyin-lowe
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Hard to tell without anything in there for scale/size but are you certain those are martin feathers. They look a little off to me but again it's hard to tell from that picture.

Also I no nothing about those electric fence set ups but no on cattle fences etc. it's not a constant on. it just delivers a shock like every 20 seconds or something, at least some work that way. Is that the way yours works or is it "hot" all the time?
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2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
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2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
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2014 Visitors
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2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
brent
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Flyin , it is a pulsating shock. I’m not 100% certain that they are martin feathers. I can only assume but it could be black bird feathers since my neighbor feeds them, a lot of them. I saw one dead the other day under his feeder so perhaps that’s what they are but it still worries me. As CC Martin mentioned, it could be that since the martins seem to behave normally. Thank you for the reply. Brent
Brent
Thomabear
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The S12 solar charger delivers a shock every 2 seconds that lasts for under a second. The blinking light indicates when the shock is being delivered. The plug in type I’ve been using at home and others deliver shocks at the same intervals. Nothing will be capable of climbing those poles with either setup.
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37
2025-42 Pair, 202 Fledged
HOSP count 46
brent
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Location: Raceland, Louisiana

Thanks Thomabear. I have to say that I love this set up. Don’t have to deal with bird netting or the regular round pole guard. It makes nest checking so much easier. Couldn’t be happier. Brent
Brent
flyin-lowe
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Thanks for the info. I had always been interested in those type setups but with my own two kids and a large number of young nieces and nephews I just used standard guards. I may now look into them since my kids are older and I don't have a bunch of little ones running around the yard.
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
Martintown33
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Brent, it’s possible that the martins are being preyed upon, taken to the ground , and eaten. Then a raccoon or opossum may be coming and scavenging what’s left, leaving just the wings.
Sorry this is happening..
Rob
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Laplace, La
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