Getting antsy in Wisconsin :) 2022 Optimism?

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MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Howdy All!

As we get older and the stress piles on with life in general, children growing up and getting smarter than we are, work responsibility etc., I find myself drawn more towards the "simple" things in life. If you would have told 20 year old me how much I'd like gardening, bird houses and fruit trees, I'da though you were nuts. But here we are. :)

A run down of where I've been and my reasons for optimism for the 2022 Purple Martin season -

First year for me was 2019.

2019 - Built a custom rack and put up 6 BO9s. Saw one Martin throughout the whole season.
2020 - Kept housing the same. Had a Martin here and there, saw one pair fluttering in and out of gourds a little bit. Nothing stuck.
2021 - Kept housing the same. Had more regular Martin activity. Think I have pictures of 6 at one time. Had a pair fluttering in and out of gourds
for a couple days. Got a pair of eggs. Above average Sparrow activity and they eventually poked holes in both Martin eggs. Immediately bought a
repeater trap and trapped 37 Sparrows last year.

2022 - Very excited for this year. Gonna keep on trapping Sparrows. I upgraded to 6 of the BO11s with all the bells and whistles. So far we sadly cut down
5 of our many many large Ash trees because they are dead. But this REALLY opens up the front yard around where I have the housing. These ash
trees being gone created 2 huge new runways around the Martin housing, so silver lining there!

That's my story. Anyone else wanna share their optimism for 2022?
deancamp
Posts: 873
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Good Luck MY!! I suppose your playing the dawn song, etc..... l have 33 total cavities and had 31 nesting pairs last year. I'm not going to add additional gourds or housing so hoping to keep it near capacity. I will be helping my neighbor start a colony and am optimistic she can attract several pair.
Jeff
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Hey good luck!! Good outlook you have; it is the best way to go in the martin world.
Your doing the right things, you will refine them as you go along. Glad to hear your after those sparrows....trapped and shot 103 sparrows last season...got one this season. They are scarce around our block now but if I drive three streets over, place is lousy with them. Never ending supply so keep after them. Think about a good pellet rifle, sometimes traps work, when they are focused on a house, shooting is best option.
Marking time here way south of you-i believe we will fill up, the sucessful martins and the single hangers on will be back...just very slow rt now. I'm thinking of taking up quilting.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
Whippy
Posts: 1023
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:15 pm
Location: Plano, Texas
Martin Colony History: See Signature

MF-79,

I'm with you. If you told me 20 years ago I'd be hanging out by my windows all day and out in the yard all day chasing hawks and taking care of my martins I would have told you to pour me another beer and to have 3 yourself.

So here I am now with 46 cavities mixture of gourds, T-14 and a 6 room Trio Wade. Looking for a new location for my mannequin and where I'm going to add another. I haven't seen a hawk in my airspace yet but did see one fly by on the next street over.

Martins are closing in on me as I look at the arrival map but we also have a cold snap coming on Thursday. I can wait 7 more days if my Martins can.

The best thing I ever did was put tunnels on all of my housing except for the Trio. Once the tunnels went on I began to grow every year. So I'm assuming the "bells and whistles" are actually tunnels and crescent entrances. I have tunnels on my Bo11+ gourds and they are very popular.

Opening the flyway also took away ambush points for the hawks so that's a huge positive.

I would love to see pictures of your set up.

Good luck to you this year.

Coolwhips
2016 - many visitors
2017 - 1 pair, 3 fledged
2018- 2 pair, 12 fledged
2019 - 4 pair, 21 fledged
2020 - 15 pair, 67 fledged
2021 - 29 pair, 117 fledged
2022 - 35 pair, 130 fledged
2023 - 43 pair, 196 fledged
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Thanks for the kind words folks.

I bought the cooling caps, tunnels and crescent entrances for the BO11+. Had all those on the BO9s also.

Once I'm off my phone I'll try getting up some pictures.

Quilting might be a little extreme!! :D
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Haha! Couldnt resist the old guy joke. I realized I was that guy a few years ago.
I'd put in a rock garden in a patch in front when we first moved in; petrified wood, some cactus etc. Took a bit of time to get it all arranged. Some boys across the street were playing around, and one started messing around with the rocks! I was on the roof putting up Christmas lights and said "are you INSANE?! Stay off the rocks!!" Immediately one boy escorted him off the rocks, patting him on the back, and said "its ok, hes a new kid, its ok.

I realized I'm that guy.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Gourd mount which goes around pole:
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Pole with winch - Notice 4 cut down tree stumps in background. Just beyond the photo on the right is the barn. Those 4 ash trees had the area sealed off quite well:
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Close up of the pole and winch setup:
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I should dig up some pictures of the old BO9s up there with the ash trees in the background.
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Couple pictures from 2021.

Old BO9s up in place -
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The small flock I'm very proud of :)
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My first eggs!
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Some help from Sparrows. Note the poke holes :roll:
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Hoping with trapping and shooting of sparrows we can get some Martins hatched out this year. We also have a lot of hawks in the area (actually had a hawk kill one of our chickens), but have never seen them mess with the Martins yet. Hopefully that continues. Very excited for 2022!
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Wonderful pictures, and yes a flock to be proud of.

What sort of sparrow traps do you have in mind?
Some simple nest box traps with van ert traps would be effective im thinking. Reduce the entrance just a bit so a martin can't enter and place them near your martin house.
Thanks for sharing the pictures!
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
deancamp
Posts: 873
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Nice setup MY, that's a stout gourd rack pole! Do you have a predator guard for it as well?
Jeff
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

I bought a repeater trap last year as soon as the eggs got holes punched in them. Got 37 sparrows last year with the trap out.

I just bought a van ert from your recommendation CC. My wife sits in the garage a lot and keeps an eye on the Martins, she can let me know if the trap is tripped. Good call on that.

Haven't had the need for a predator guard yet. Raccoons are heavily trapped around here, but not a bad idea. Normally you see thin sheetmetal wrapped around power poles here, wonder if I could get lucky enough to find the right size PVC, cut it in half, then screw the 2 halves back onto the pole. Little more challenging with the power pole and the fact you need to split whatever goes around it.
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Oh yah, I've never seen squirrels on these power wires. We had a couple daredevil ones messing around on the roof of our house. I must say though - as much as I love nature, action gets taken when it start messing with the homestead if you know what I mean. There are thousands of acres of woods around me, go play there. :grin:
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Those van ert traps work great, caught lots of sparrows and starlings. Trick is getting them out, so I made two types: one the whole side swings up to get the bird out, other has a smaller escape hole covered by a door that pivots on a screw. Getting them out: put the whole house in a clear plastic bag and seal it off, open the door and when it flies out it will settle in lowest part of the bag, just retrieve it from there. If its native, gets to fly away.

With that repeating trap you could place the sparrow in it to draw in others. Took a bit of what I learned here and put a nest box for them to get out of the elements, bit of food water and grit and they will last a good while.

PS: All the nest box traps have to have a way to get the trap in there and set it or spring it, so either the side or top can be made on a hinge.
Good luck this season!
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
deancamp
Posts: 873
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

I hear you on the homestead! That's the thing about a predator guard, you never know you need it until it's too late. I think they're worth it if you are able to i stall one. Maybe some hvac duct.
Jeff
Jones4381
Posts: 830
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Southwestern VA
Martin Colony History: 2020- 0
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122
2025 54 Pair -178

That's my story. Anyone else wanna share their optimism for 2022?
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I know its going to be another new adventure with excitements, setbacks, and mostly exhuberations for being the lucky ones to have learned its whats the whole purpose is to show kindness and respect for all our animal friends and foes. Seriously I think this may be the best year yet for me going into yr 3 of being awake and just appreciating the dedication, commitments, tenacity, pursurverence, and joy I now actually witness. I hope you have a great 2022 in WI friend.
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kclem
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Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:14 pm
Location: Twin Lakes, WI USA

Hi. I am in Wisconsin also and I am optimistic for my second year. I built a house with 14 cavities during the first year of the pandemic and put it up for the first time last season. I am lucky to have a place on a small lake with several other Martin houses established on other properties on the lake. I had five nests, three pair that laid eggs, and seven young that fledged. I trapped several sparrows. The ice is off of the lake now, so I will be putting up our pier and attaching the house soon. Good luck for this season.
MY FYN 79
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Location: Chilton Wisconsin
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Sighting
2020 - Pair investigating
2021 - Got 2 eggs. HOSPs poked holes in them. Commence HOSP reduction
2022 - Off to a good start, tree swallows took over and Martins left
2023 - Off to a good start, Martin population dwindled and they eventually left
2024 - New standalone pole and gourd rack. 1 nest, 4 eggs, none hatched
2025 - 9 nests, 37 eggs, 23 hatched, 19 fledged!

Didn't see or hear any Martins yet, but someone posted a scout spotting in Hilbert which is just down the road. Fingers crossed for a sighting, and fingers crossed for the weather to clear up a little too!
sldnk1
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:20 pm
Location: Dresser WI

I'm with you in Wisconsin! I have had at least one pair the last 3 years but the last 2 years the birds seem to abandon the nest with eggs. happened to my blue birds in 2020 and tree swallows in 21 along with one pair of Martin's the same year. I do have poplar trees in my back yard that have gotten pretty big and I have been on the fence to cut them down and replace with pine trees for noise and line of sight in winter since my back yard is close to a busy road. I'm trying decoys for the first time and always try to keep up on the Dawnsong recording. Feeling hopeful
Rafke77
Posts: 92
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:47 pm
Location: Plymouth, IN
Martin Colony History: 2022 First arrival 4/5. 32 pair, 94 hatched. 11 males found dead throughout the season.

2021 Texas deep freeze, first arrived 4/6. 37 pair, 143 hatched, 140 fledged, 21 non viable.

2020 first arrived 3/27. 21 pair, 92 fledged, 9 non viable.

2019 first time with Martin's, first arrived 4/24 10 pair, 24 fledged, 15 eggs non-viable.

I really like the use of the utility pole!
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