Going Down After 22 Years

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BumBee
Posts: 426
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:47 am
Location: Sugar Land, Texas

I am taking my two 12-room Purple Martin housing down for the last time. There
has been no activity in the past three years. I see them flying around feeding in
the area but no visitor.

Mistake 1: having bird feeders that attracted local wild birds. Hawks feasted
on them and the Purple Martins. It was too late by the time I removed
my bird feeders. Avian predators were already established in my neighbor hood.

Mistake 2: having caged birds in my patio. It too attracted hawks to my backyard.

I thought I get to enjoy birds in my backyard year round....WRONG!

Adios Y'All.
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G Saner
Posts: 257
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:37 pm
Location: TX/Kerrville
Martin Colony History: Fort Worth, TX (1967-1976), The Colony, TX (1981-1985), Carrollton, TX (1986-2013), Kerrville, TX (2015-present).

Two SuperGourd poles (12 gourds on each) at River Point Assisted Living Center.

BumBee,

Sorry to hear about your hawk problem. I had the same issue at my last colony. I didn't get down to zero but did get down to 3 pair.

When I retired, our new backyard is poor martin habitat so I moved my gourds and set up a satellite colony. This is my current colony. My gourds are at an Assisted Living Center (with A+ conditions) and I couldn't be happier.

If you are willing to try something a little different to continue the hobby, a satellite colony might be good. Other good locations included golf courses or parks. Really anywhere that is open and you get permission can work. I just thought I would toss it out as another option.

Gary
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BumBee
Posts: 426
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:47 am
Location: Sugar Land, Texas

Gary,
Thank you very much. I've decided to put an aviary in my backyard instead.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Bumbee,
Sorry to hear that, you've been at it for a while. Wish you all the best with your aviary. Hope your able to encourage others in your area to become landlords.
Gary had a great suggestion.
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3792
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

The hawk is definitely a problem but I am not sure the other birds are to blame. The bird feeders will not draw any more attention of the hawks then a purple martin colony does. Even if you didn't have feeders or the birds on you porch, a colony of martins would attract the attention of hawks.
2026 HOSP 29
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
BumBee
Posts: 426
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:47 am
Location: Sugar Land, Texas

No feeders, no wild birds doves, no martins for the past 3 years, still plenty of hawks.

My cage birds attracts hawks, as you can see in the photo I posted, a Sharp Shined hawk
perched on my birds cage.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Yeah I saw him. Bet your birds were nervous. We have a few flocks of wild parrots here, saw a hawk on a high wire checking two out, the parrots knew it was there and were making all kinds of noise, looked to me like the hawk didnt know what to make of them.
Well you gave it a shot hanging in there for 3 years. Good luck!
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
BumBee
Posts: 426
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:47 am
Location: Sugar Land, Texas

Oh yeah, they did the opossum trick, not a single bird that did not have a nest box
moved specially the pair of Red Rump Parakeets that was 3 feet away
from this hawk.
Matt F.
Posts: 3978
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

Hi Bumbee,
I've always enjoyed your posts. You've always brought a wealth of knowledge to the forum, as well as some really cool, cutting edge housing designs.
I completely understand where you're coming from. These smaller hawks, namely sharpies and cooper's, have really done a lot of damage to the songbird hobby, for a lot of folks.
Yet another example of a species exploding in numbers, at the expense of other, just as important species, thanks to laws that are completely out of touch with what's actually going on.
I hope you keep contributing here on the forum.
Whether hosting Martins, or not, your knowledge, experience, and ingenuity will always be greatly appreciated.
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Dave Reynolds
Posts: 2444
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged

Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged

... Like someone said... You can move your housing to a Satilite Site and maybe enjoy Martins there.. That is what I did.. I got so tired after years of trying to start an colony, I ask the local Golf Course if I could try and start a colony on the course.. Sure enough 15 pair the first year at the Golf Course. Then the next year I got my first pair at home.. Strange the way things work out.. Good luck with your new project...

Dave
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Little Hocking, Ohio
BumBee
Posts: 426
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:47 am
Location: Sugar Land, Texas

There they go. I gave them to a guy that has acreage and a pond in Alvin Texas.
He was doing some work for me, and he notice my PM housing. He started talking about
PMs. I asked if he would like to take my PM housing and he said yes. Today he came
and we took them down.
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Dave Reynolds
Posts: 2444
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged

Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged

,,, Sorry to hear Bumbee ,,, But you gave it a good try.. Hope the owner of your houses has some success.. Keep us all posted how things are going for ya... from time to time..

Dave
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Little Hocking, Ohio
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