Porch dominance trouble?

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Stacy B.
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:04 am
Location: Leroy, Louisiana
Martin Colony History: 2018- visitors only
2019- 8 pair, fledged 32
2020- 18 pair, fledged 91
2021-
Also host 1 pair of bluebirds and barn swallows
Every year. Avg. 3-5 fledglings each annually.

My founding pair were ASY martins. go figure? The male is particularly territorial and an all around bully. He still is to this day. Our first season together he had me cussing mad trying to solve his issue with porch dominance. He refused to let another male martin sit on "his" house! And so it was, after several failed attempts to solve the problem he won. I eventually got a few pair on the other side of the house after he had babies to help tend to, and he chilled out some. But I lost a whole side of the house to 1 mean old bird! The porch dominance thing had me stumped.
After several months of kicking thoughts around post season, I had an idea! What if I could let him "think" he had the whole side of the house to himself, while giving the other martins access to those vacant cavities? Why that would be a win win for everyone. Including me and my "bully" martin. My idea was to cut new entry points allowing access to vacant rooms and seal off the whole front of the house save 1 room. And low and behold, to my surprise it worked!!
I also enlarged all compartments and even added WEP(wing entrapment protectors) from PMCA for good measure. I don't think the house will outlast the modifications I put into it. But I don't regret it. I learned so much through that ordeal. About martins and myself. Just thought I'd share my story. Maybe it will help some one, or even just entertain.
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Stacy B.
Stacy B.
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:04 am
Location: Leroy, Louisiana
Martin Colony History: 2018- visitors only
2019- 8 pair, fledged 32
2020- 18 pair, fledged 91
2021-
Also host 1 pair of bluebirds and barn swallows
Every year. Avg. 3-5 fledglings each annually.

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Stacy B.
SSMartin
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Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:05 pm
Location: FL

Well done. That is a great mod and the WEG were a smart move.

I just put the same house together last night I had a spare tri tel pole so figured why not the sub adults might like it. I did expand all the rooms and was surprised how big the attic compartments were. i plugged the attics on my other s&k house they were just too small and narrow I felt. I have 22 birds now and am not sure how many more ASY birds will arrive in the next few weeks.

I might get the porch separators before I put it up so I don’t have the same issue.
Conrad Baker
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Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:43 pm
Location: Paulina, Louisiana

Stacy B,
How do you do nest checks and clean the rooms on compartments 1 and 2 (the attic rooms)? I covered the entrances to mine with screen to allow ventilation, but to keep sparrows and wasps from building nests in them. It was impossible to do nest checks, apply sevin dust, and clean them out at the end of the season.
Stacy B.
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:04 am
Location: Leroy, Louisiana
Martin Colony History: 2018- visitors only
2019- 8 pair, fledged 32
2020- 18 pair, fledged 91
2021-
Also host 1 pair of bluebirds and barn swallows
Every year. Avg. 3-5 fledglings each annually.

Agreed.
The attic compartments are a pain. I use a flashlight and a telescoping mirror to check things out and have a teaspoon with a LONG handle to apply Devin dust. I also have small tongs (similar to bbq utensil) that I can reach in there if I need. For clean outs I just peel up the roof some and shove my hand in there pulling everything out. Then hose it out.
I am aware of the issues with those compartments, and I promised myself I would close them up the first time I have trouble. But my birds go for them early on and babies fledge he before it gets hot.
I'm hard headed I guess.
Stacy B.
Kegger
Posts: 381
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:58 am
Location: Awesome Florida
Martin Colony History: 2020: 2 pair of SY with 4 eggs ,fledge 7
2021: 5 pair 25 eggs fledge 18, 4 egg 2nd brood attempt
2022: 13 pair 61 eggs fledge 56 added 11 cavs. now 22 total
2023 15 pair 75 eggs fledge 51 only 3 of 11 eggs hatched cavity 10
2024 11 pair 50 eggs fledge
26. 1 renest cav1, cav10 8 eggs 8 fledged 2 couples ASY and Sy

nice job Stacy! I also have this house given to me by a neighbor. I will eventually
remodel it similar to how you did it. I figured I would cut a new end wall and
hinge them to enable a nest change. Sometimes this summer. 8)
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 2444
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged

Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged

.... Great Job..... Stacy B., ,,,, Sometimes you just have to make another way, to keep peace in the Martins neighborhood. Good thinking out of the box.... Enjoy you 2021 season..

Dave
PMCA Member
Little Hocking, Ohio
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