Distance between racks

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jpp77
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:21 pm
Location: Lawrence, KS area
Martin Colony History: 2015 - 1 pair, not successful (Sparrows)
2016 - 1 pair, 4 young
2017 - 5 pair, 23 young
2018 - 8 pair, 40 young, two deaths most likely due to heat.
2019 - 18 pair, 74 eggs, 1 nest abandoned, all the rest successful.
2020 - 32 nests, unknown exact egg numbers, 1 death.

Putting up a second Gemini rack to max out my colony size. About how far apart should I place the ground stakes?
Brad Biddle
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Location: Marshall County AL

There’s no set distance. You can put them very close together or spread them apart. I have seen numerous successful sites with them close enough that the gourds from 2 separate poles are no more than 3 feet apart. I have some 30-40 feet apart too
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 162 plastic gourds with tunnels, all with Conley II entrances with the Lewis modification. I have 24 Supergourds and the rest are Troyer Horizontals.
Dave Duit
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Location: Iowa / Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2024, 82 pair with 350 fledged youngsters. 110 total cavities available, 82 Troyer Horizontal gourds and a homemade PVC / metal 28 compartment unit, 1 fallout shelter. Hawk and owl guards included. Martin educator and speaker. President and founder of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit Iowa Purple Martin Organization on Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1627283871068161 Emails send to [email protected]. Subject line include Iowa Purple Martin.

Hi jpp77,
My racks are 5 feet apart at their closest points. The martins seem to be unaffected by the distance.
ImageMite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.
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Spiderman
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Location: Gladewater, Texas

Closer the better!
Colony started in 2002

Offering 82 Troyer Horizontal Gourds

2018 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 203 MARTINS
2019 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 268 MARTINS
2020 - 82 PAIR - FLEDGED 392 MARTINS
2021 - 78 PAIR - FLEDGED 349 MARTINS
2022 - 76 PAIR - FLEDGED 373 MARTINS
2023 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 355 MARTINS

*2023 Added 2”X4” wire cages to all three Troyer Gemini Gourd Racks to deal with Great Horned Owl predation on Colony.
deancamp
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Location: Raymore, MO

I had 2 racks 25' apart, it seemed they would have been more comfortable had they been closer.They liked to bounce back back and forth between the 2. I reconfigured and they will be 16' apart, we will see.
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daveh
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Location: Kingsville Mo.

I have six poles spaced 30 feet from each other. The birds don't care and it's easy to mow around them with my lawnmower or tractor.

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John Evans
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Location: Cocoa Beach Florida

In Ohio, I had 4 racks clustered together about 15' apart. The Martins loved the closeness and so did the Coopers Hawks.I seriously contemplated spreading them out at least 100' as we had enough property, to possibly give the martins a better chance to escape attacks. It was pretty easy for the hawks to just plow into a hundred plus martins in close proximity and get lucky sometimes.

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daveh
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Location: Kingsville Mo.

Very good point John.

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Dave Duit
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Location: Iowa / Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2024, 82 pair with 350 fledged youngsters. 110 total cavities available, 82 Troyer Horizontal gourds and a homemade PVC / metal 28 compartment unit, 1 fallout shelter. Hawk and owl guards included. Martin educator and speaker. President and founder of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit Iowa Purple Martin Organization on Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1627283871068161 Emails send to [email protected]. Subject line include Iowa Purple Martin.

Good insight John. As for me, I'm restricted to yard space. You are right, any large congregation of birds is a dinner bell for hawks and owls.
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