Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

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Bird Brain
Posts: 338
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am
Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2022-visitors, 2023-visitors, 2024-1 pair, fledged 4, 2025-10 pair, fledged 42, 2026-17 pair, fledged 81

4'th year coming up trying to get that first pair. Finally decided to cut down the largest tree in my yard. The tree was 40 feet from martin pole but was 60 feet tall and 50 feet wide. It was definitely a hawk magnet. I watched a hawk launch from this tree once and hit a decoy. I cut this tree down because it was damaging my shed and the roots were getting into my sewer line. It was a Hackberry, which I'm not fond of. I'm hoping to realize a martin attraction benefit as a result of this decision. My setup actually falls within Chuck Abare's location guidelines now. "No tree closer to the martin pole than the tree is tall," I believe he says. Now I have 3 open flyways instead of 2. My pole is 18 inches higher than last year as a result of the winch upgrade I added. I've added 12 chirpy nests for 2020 for variety and a total of 24 cavities offered. Going to play "dawn song," and "daytime chatter," this year. Thinking about adding decoys also. Here's a couple of before and after pics. Wish me luck.

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Conrad Baker
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Location: Paulina, Louisiana

Good Luck !! I hope that helps make the Martins feel safer. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is that object on the pole between your housing setup and the tree??
Bird Brain
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Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2022-visitors, 2023-visitors, 2024-1 pair, fledged 4, 2025-10 pair, fledged 42, 2026-17 pair, fledged 81

It's a rocket box bat house. It's been occupied for 3 years now. They're a lot of fun to watch. They arrive about the same time as martins.
tor
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Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity: 96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2026: We'll see.
2025: 92 pair - Fledge: 405
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

Wow, thats what I call dedication. Good luck on the upcoming season.
Tor
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steve r
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Location: Antioch/Plant City Fla

What are the boxes on the pole with the gourds?
Conrad Baker
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Bird Brain wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:03 pm
It's a rocket box bat house. It's been occupied for 3 years now. They're a lot of fun to watch. They arrive about the same time as martins.
Thanks. You usually see the bat houses mounted under the eaves of houses, never saw one out in the open.
Dave Reynolds
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Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged
2026 - 41 Pair, 182 Fledged

Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged
2026 - 28 Pair. 116 Fledged

.. Bird Brain ..... Now that should help out a lot... Trees that size is what I had to deal with too.. The more open the area the better.. ... ... .... :grin: :grin: :grin: .. Good Luck in 2020

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C.C.Martins
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Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Definite improvement, must have been quite a chore.

The bat house has me intrigued, how long did it take to attract them? Iv been looking at bat houses all morning 😀
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
C.C.Martins
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Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Bird Brain wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:03 pm
It's a rocket box bat house. It's been occupied for 3 years now. They're a lot of fun to watch. They arrive about the same time as martins.
There are alot to choose from, i think ill try the flat type that hugs the house...will put it on my chimney!
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
flyin-lowe
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There is a pretty good bat house forum out there (some of the same members as here). In some ways bat houses are like martin houses, that shape, size, design, location, are very important and often times the ones that you can buy at a store locally are not sufficient. Bat populations in my area are taking a huge hit due to white nose syndrome. I have built and erected 6 or 7 houses in various locations over the last 10 years or so and none have been occupied. Thought about trying a rocket box style just to change it up a little bit.
2026 HOSP 29
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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flyin-lowe,
wow, looked them up and your right...dedicated to their bats. Looks like good resource. Thank you.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
Bird Brain
Posts: 338
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am
Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2022-visitors, 2023-visitors, 2024-1 pair, fledged 4, 2025-10 pair, fledged 42, 2026-17 pair, fledged 81

When shopping for a bat house, multiply the 3 dimensions to determine the total cubic inches of space, the bigger the better. Rocket boxes will break the wind better than the flat kind, resulting is less swaying. Flat side style bat houses are the best choice for building mounts. Rocket boxes do not require the purchase of a mounting bracket. Choose rough cut red cedar or pine with no plastic netting. Bat urine will eventually warp plywood. Pole mounts are more noticeable/obvious and likely to be discovered sooner than wall mounts IMO. Pole mounts offer better viewing shows. The night sky background behind a pole mount enhances bat viewing significantly. Such a background will never exist with a wall or chimney mount. Whatever mount you choose, the higher the bat house, the more likely it will be discovered. My pole is 17 feet high. My bat house became occupied in 6 months with only a few bats. My first maternity colony occurred the following year. Typically, bat house population will double every year until there is no more space.
TomBrake
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Location: VA/Abingdon

steve r wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:28 am
What are the boxes on the pole with the gourds?
Steve
Those are ChirpyNest houses.
TomBrake
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Location: VA/Abingdon

Bird Brain wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:44 pm
4'th year coming up trying to get that first pair. Finally decided to cut down the largest tree in my yard. The tree was 40 feet from martin pole but was 60 feet tall and 50 feet wide. It was definitely a hawk magnet. I watched a hawk launch from this tree once and hit a decoy. I cut this tree down because it was damaging my shed and the roots were getting into my sewer line. It was a Hackberry, which I'm not fond of. I'm hoping to realize a martin attraction benefit as a result of this decision. My setup actually falls within Chuck Abare's location guidelines now. "No tree closer to the martin pole than the tree is tall," I believe he says. Now I have 3 open flyways instead of 2. My pole is 18 inches higher than last year as a result of the winch upgrade I added. I've added 12 chirpy nests for 2020 for variety and a total of 24 cavities offered. Going to play "dawn song," and "daytime chatter," this year. Thinking about adding decoys also. Here's a couple of before and after pics. Wish me luck.

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That setup looks awesome. Keep me posted on your success.

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Unk Bond

Hello All
That right there I find very interesting and very nice.

I envy your knowledge on posting a picture. I am still trying to figure how here. My post seem flat with out a subject picture .
Later and stay safe.
brent
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Location: Raceland, Louisiana

Looks great. Much improved. Your birds will be happy to be able to fly in easily. Good decision.
Best of luck.
Brent
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Unk Bond

Hello All
I have been trying visualize that rack lifting bracket. [ Later
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