Late brood

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John & Linda - KY
Posts: 599
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:19 pm
Location: Kentucky/Hawesville

One pair of martins decided to have a late or second brood this year. The nestlings were just old enough to start coming to the entrance to be fed last Tuesday. Will these nestlings have time to gain enough strength for the migration? Their parents are feeding them faithfully and several martins return occasionally to see how they're doing. -- John
mjfog
Posts: 443
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:40 pm
Location: Palm City, FL
Martin Colony History: 2018 will be my first try. 6 S&K B09s. 29 eggs - 8 fledged
2019 - 12 Troyer Horizontals with tunnels, 6 S&K B09s and 12 B011s all with tunnels. 43 eggs - 36 fledged
2020 - Rack 1 - 6 B011s, Rack 2 - 24 B011s, and Rack 3 - 24 Troyer Horizontals. All gourds have tunnels, porches and crescent/Conley 11 entrances; racks have predator guards. 161 eggs - 88 fledged.
2021 - 54 gourds-214 eggs, 184 hatched, 168 fledged.
2022 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 363 eggs, 294 hatched, 278 fledged.
2023 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 321 eggs, 276 hatched, 246 fledged.
2024 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 330 eggs, 283 hatched, 250 fledged.
2025 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 347 eggs, 281 hatched, 266 fledged.

Most avian young are heavier than their parents just before leaving the nest. Reason - fed by parents so no exercise catching food. Your young will be strong enough for migration. First of all, what they need to make the round trip to Brazil is LUCK. If they make it there and back then these guys have picked up the second factor toward another return - experience. The number of newbies that don't "make it" is staggering. Mother Nature is tuff and the negative effects of humans on the environment complicate this species survival. My hat is off to all Purple Martin landlords. We are doing our best to keep this part of nature alive and well.

Happy Martining, Mike
Fuzzmeister
Posts: 178
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:02 pm
Location: Saskatchewan Canada

I don’t think you have to worry to much you are a long way south of where I live, i am in Saskatchewan Canada and I am sitting on my deck watching three pairs of martins still feeding there chicks and they won’t fledge for at least another week so some where along the way if every thing goes well they just might meet up.
randyM
Posts: 254
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:30 pm
Location: Long Lake SD
Martin Colony History: * 2016 - 1 pair (ASYM + SYF) 2/3 eggs hatched 2 young fledged.
* 2017 - 4 pairs, 16/17 eggs hatched, 16 fledged, 16 banded - 2 banded SY returned in 2018 (12.5%)
* 2018 - 10 pairs, 46/52 eggs hatched, 45 fledged, 29 young banded - 3 banded SY returned in 2019 (10.3%)
*2019 - 32 pairs, 145/160 eggs hatched, 139 fledged - 87 young banded - 12 banded SY returned in 2020 (13.8%).
* 2020 - 35 pairs, 180/199 eggs hatched, 178 fledged - 150 young banded & 42 SY returned (28.0%)
* 2021 - 89 pairs, 363/446 eggs hatched, 355 fledged - 150 young banded & 19 SY returned (12.7%)
*2022 - 116 pairs, 495/579 eggs hatched, 471 fledged - 150 young banded & 27 SY returned (18.0%)
*2023 - 160 pairs, 708/828 eggs hatched, 572 fledged - 150 young banded & 38 SY returned (25.3%)
*2024 - 235 pairs, 950/1153 eggs hatched, 865 fledged - 100 young banded & 18 SY returned (18.0%)
*2025 - 200 pairs, 795/953 eggs hatched, 739 fledged - 200 young banded

I also live much farther north than you and have two broods that aren't scheduled to fledge for another 10 days or so. Thus, the young in your late nest should have as good or better chance to fledge and survive the southward migration than those later nests north of you.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3788
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

The youngest at my colony are still sticking around and just fledged last week and many people north of us still have martins yet to fledge. I see no reason that yours will have any issues. My guess would be that they won't stick around long after their first flight. When I started my first colony, it was mainly SY's the first two years and they obviously arrive later and get started a little later. The first two years the martins were all gone within a couple days of the young's fist flight
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
Les Frampton
Posts: 10
Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:45 pm
Location: Michigan
Martin Colony History: My wife and I have been passive purple martin landlords for about 25 years
and decided to become active this past winter. We usually have about 14-15 nests. This year we have 15 nests with 59 live and 8 eggs yet from later arrivals.

Les from Michigan, most of 2019 brood left already (about 105 ) with another 13 young still hanging around. This week should complete with 5 more to fledge. Really good year with 124 hatched and 118 fledged. The first group left within 1-2 days and the later 1 week so far. Fun, fun stuff.
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