When to open housing at established site ?

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karen
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Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:21 pm
Location: ethel , la

I read that you should have housing up but keep holes plugged - is that until martins are actually seen flying around the houses or until they are seen by others in my area on scout report ? Thanks, Karen :!:
Kyler
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Location: Colby, Kansas
Martin Colony History: PMCA Member - Project MartinWatch - Enlarged Compartments - SREH - S&S Control - Mite Control - Predator Guards - Heat Control ( Vents and Insulation ) - Supplemental Feeding -

Manage 7 different colonies in Colby Kansas.

Karen,
Mine usually arrive between March 20th through the 30th. I have my houses up by March 5th. I have all the holes plugged except 2 and those are where I have my traps. I try to get all the Sparrows and Starlings out of the way before the martins arrive. But anyways I think many people put there housing up when there are reports close to there area. They also have them plugged in till they see martins then they will open some. Hopes this helps!!

Kyler,
Purple Martin Landlords of Northwest KS
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flyin-lowe
Posts: 3788
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

You should be able to know from past experience and the scout reports the "general" times when martins arrive in your area. I usually have my housing up 3-4 weeks before arrivals. I keep them closed except for nest box traps. If you have an established site keep them closed until martins actually arrive in your area. Returning PM's might cause a little ruckus if their doors are closed off but they have site fidelity and will not leave right away. Once you see them in your yard or on your housing start to open up some cavities.
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
karen
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Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:21 pm
Location: ethel , la

Thanks ! :grin:
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Karen, early arrivals are important. Houses need to be up for them before they show, but they will hang around waiting for their house for a week or so...they aren't in a rush to nest and are waiting for the others to arrive. It will give you a chance to iron out last minute pop up problems. A consideration for you are the later younger birds who will be looking for their first nesting site. folks keep at least some holes closed for them until they are on site. With the martins come the predators so now will be time to watch the starlings and sparrows.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
4th Gen Martin Fan
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Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
Location: TN/Collierville
Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.

Tom,
Your enthusiasm is contagious. You have inspired me to get my colony and mentees' colonies ready for the coming season.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

kind words sir, when I saw the scout report in Corpus I raised them all up! My wife was placed on 24/7 Martin Watch (she refused and sent me to do dishes). It did help to have them ready early, the trio needed rubber washers on the locking devise on the pole; it was slipping down. I will not be as desperate to adjust and fix things like last year, I cannot wait for them to show...if this year is a bust...well, Ill be ready next year!
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3788
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

After the 2012 season when I moved from my old house to my new house I took my martin housing with me as the people who bought my house had no interest in them. Plus I was only moving about 6 miles away so I was hoping the displaced martins would find their old housing (at my new location). I am fairly confident they did. I drove by my old house ever afternoon for a couple weeks. The first weeks there were tons of ASY's just circling the yard where they houses once were. It was a sad sight to see. About a week later I looked out and had about 8 ASY's on my house. At first I thought they had to be starlings but when I went out they were PM'S. I opened the housing and they stayed for about 5 days then one Saturday morning they were all gone and never saw them again. I still kind of feel like they were possibly my displaced PM's as it seems odd that that many ASY's from another colony would spend almost a week at my place. On the other hand if they were my displaced PM's I can't imagine why they would stay for a week and then leave..... Anyway I just know first hand that they will stick around a place for a short time waiting on their housing to be erected.
I also think in some parts of the country their arrival behaviors are different. I don't recall ever having my first arriving ASY's spend the night right away. I don't know if they stay in larger roosts somewhere but it is almost always like they show up, come in and out during the day and then 3-5 days later they start staying in a cavity.
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
BobbyG
Posts: 83
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:13 am
Location: LA/Laplace
Martin Colony History: 10 years

As long as you have no starling or sparrow problems it doesn't matter I took mine down in august after the martins left scrubbed and repainted and put them right back up. I had 213 fledges last year.
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