I have 3 new nests that have eggs and it's probably gonna be another week and a half before any of them hatch. I have babies ranging from fledging age to about 12 days old. Then now I have eggs. My question is will these parents stay around long enough in till there babies fledge? Or will they leave with all the other ones. Our Martins usually leave around August 1st but I guess the 3 pair might been a little later.
Kyler,
Late Nesters
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Kyler
- Posts: 899
- Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 pm
- Location: Colby, Kansas
- Martin Colony History: PMCA Member - Project MartinWatch - Enlarged Compartments - SREH - S&S Control - Mite Control - Predator Guards - Heat Control ( Vents and Insulation ) - Supplemental Feeding -
Manage 7 different colonies in Colby Kansas.
Purple Martin Landlords of Northwest KS
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2014 - 1 Pair -
2015 - 0 Pair -
2016 - 5 Pair -
2017 - 18 Pair -
2018 - 22 Pair -
2019 - 28 Pair -
2020 - 40 Pair -
2021 - 40 Pair -
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2018 - 22 Pair -
2019 - 28 Pair -
2020 - 40 Pair -
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4th Gen Martin Fan
- Posts: 1498
- Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
- Location: TN/Collierville
- Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.
Kyler,
I have the same situation here. New nest in one of my mentee's colony. They will have to do it alone because all other martins have left with their fledglings.
I will continue to help and support them, but I cannot supply the early warning system against hawks that the colony provides. I do have hawk/owl guards up.
In the past, the late nesters have stayed and raised their young to fledgling. I am especially careful to provide venting and shading for these late nests since the hottest days for this area are still ahead. You are now an experienced and conscientious landlord so apply all of your wisdom and expertise to protect late nests from overheating.
I have the same situation here. New nest in one of my mentee's colony. They will have to do it alone because all other martins have left with their fledglings.
I will continue to help and support them, but I cannot supply the early warning system against hawks that the colony provides. I do have hawk/owl guards up.
In the past, the late nesters have stayed and raised their young to fledgling. I am especially careful to provide venting and shading for these late nests since the hottest days for this area are still ahead. You are now an experienced and conscientious landlord so apply all of your wisdom and expertise to protect late nests from overheating.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
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ToyinPA
- Posts: 2227
- Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:07 pm
- Location: PA/Avis
- Martin Colony History: The 1972 St. Agnes flood wiped out all the Martins in my area. One day, in 1997-98, 5 or 6 Martins landed on the power wires crossing my back yard. I had no house for them. They kept coming back day after day. We got a martin house a few weeks later & they have been coming back every year since. I average 12-15 pair per year.
Same here. Late nesters. Had 2 chicks fledge a few days ago. Just had 3 nests hatch chicks. Adding to the late hatching I just had a couple other pairs lay eggs yesterday. If they hatch it'll be late August or early September before they're ready to leave.
The parents should stay to fledge their chicks. Keep an eye on them during heat spells. They may need cool packs or supplemental feeding.
Toy in PA
The parents should stay to fledge their chicks. Keep an eye on them during heat spells. They may need cool packs or supplemental feeding.
Toy in PA
PMCA Member
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Martinfarmer
- Posts: 153
- Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 6:33 pm
- Location: Guthrie KY 42234
- Martin Colony History: 2015 put up a S-k house, visitors but no takers
2016 homemade Martin condo (40 nesting boxes) several visitors no takers
2017 changed crescent openings to Troyer Conley 2 openings and installed 4 super gourds with Conley2 adapters and 12 vertical Troyers.
Several nests and eggs. Hopefully will exceed one hundred eggs this year.
6-21-17 nest inspection 68 chicks and 26 eggs
6-30-17 inspection 90 chicks and a new nest with 4 eggs.
8-30-17 successfully fledged over 85 martins.
Hello everyone, I have had several nests to fledge, first time to see the air full of martins. I have about ten nests to go. One pair is just starting feathers and another hasn't hatched yet. I'm convinced martins do their own thing. While on vacation in Florida, the martin houses there had baby chicks in them. The landlord explained to me that they raise two broods per year.
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Martin man RI
- Posts: 441
- Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:04 pm
- Location: MA/RI area
Same here for the first time in 20 years i have new eggs in July in the last five days a pair produced 2 eggs And I probably
Have more. They nested two weeks late, And the entire cycle seems is off. These maybe re-nest too! The species
is rapidly recovering and has started to nest in towns where they have not been seen in over 100 years.
Ray
Have more. They nested two weeks late, And the entire cycle seems is off. These maybe re-nest too! The species
is rapidly recovering and has started to nest in towns where they have not been seen in over 100 years.
Ray
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- Posts: 356
- Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:26 pm
- Location: Corpus Christi, TX
- Martin Colony History: ................
2019: 11 pairs
2018: 11 pairs - 43 fledged
2017: 4 pairs - 17 fledged
I had 12 babies fledge from 3 nests by July 5th.
Since April I had a subadult "floater" male working very hard to attract a mate. He finally got a mate and now I have 5 new hatchlings due to fledge sometime around August 8th or so.
It's pretty lonely around here now without all of the colony activity & chatter. But now I'm going to concentrate on getting these birds through the July heat and pray that tropical activity waits until they're gone.
Since April I had a subadult "floater" male working very hard to attract a mate. He finally got a mate and now I have 5 new hatchlings due to fledge sometime around August 8th or so.
It's pretty lonely around here now without all of the colony activity & chatter. But now I'm going to concentrate on getting these birds through the July heat and pray that tropical activity waits until they're gone.
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin' till you do succeed." - Curly Howard
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Kyler
- Posts: 899
- Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 pm
- Location: Colby, Kansas
- Martin Colony History: PMCA Member - Project MartinWatch - Enlarged Compartments - SREH - S&S Control - Mite Control - Predator Guards - Heat Control ( Vents and Insulation ) - Supplemental Feeding -
Manage 7 different colonies in Colby Kansas.
Yes I think most of them are late this year. One of the nests hatched yesterday. Now we are just waiting on the other 2 to hatch.
Mark,
Did you happen to get those vents installed?
Kyler,
Mark,
Did you happen to get those vents installed?
Kyler,
Purple Martin Landlords of Northwest KS
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC9HDLGlbCmSYcSExIySwUQA
2013 - 0 Pair -
2014 - 1 Pair -
2015 - 0 Pair -
2016 - 5 Pair -
2017 - 18 Pair -
2018 - 22 Pair -
2019 - 28 Pair -
2020 - 40 Pair -
2021 - 40 Pair -
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC9HDLGlbCmSYcSExIySwUQA
2013 - 0 Pair -
2014 - 1 Pair -
2015 - 0 Pair -
2016 - 5 Pair -
2017 - 18 Pair -
2018 - 22 Pair -
2019 - 28 Pair -
2020 - 40 Pair -
2021 - 40 Pair -
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4th Gen Martin Fan
- Posts: 1498
- Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
- Location: TN/Collierville
- Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.
Kyler,
The nest which has the nest compartment to the west side of the house already has a PVC vent. At this point the angle of the sun is low enough that the house is shaded during the hot part of the day. Of the eggs that were laid only 1 hatched. I thought it needed the warmer compartment to compensate for no fellow nestlings.
I have been waiting for the temperature to get above 95 degrees F to add the vent on the door. I received the soffitt vents that you recommended and they are perfect. I got the 1" and 2" size. I will install the 1" in the center upper 1/3 of the door.
I will check on the single nestling tomorrow.
The nest which has the nest compartment to the west side of the house already has a PVC vent. At this point the angle of the sun is low enough that the house is shaded during the hot part of the day. Of the eggs that were laid only 1 hatched. I thought it needed the warmer compartment to compensate for no fellow nestlings.
I have been waiting for the temperature to get above 95 degrees F to add the vent on the door. I received the soffitt vents that you recommended and they are perfect. I got the 1" and 2" size. I will install the 1" in the center upper 1/3 of the door.
I will check on the single nestling tomorrow.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
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Gun
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:26 pm
- Location: Foothills, AB
- Martin Colony History: 2016 - 1 pair - 4 fledged
2017 - 4 pair - 16 fledged
2018 - 7 pair - 24 fledged
Moved and starting over in 2019
Had a hatch of four on the 14th by the crazy pair in the new house. Still have 4 eggs in another nest as of yesterday. Second year Landlord with 4 nesting pairs.
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joyjazz
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:13 pm
- Location: MN/Ceylon
- Martin Colony History: Have had Martins for over 50 years
It's amazing I don't know how they did it, but they were the latest to my house that they've ever been, I figured a couple of weeks. The weeks that the youngsters were learning to fly I couldn't help feel an urgency. I had one little guy, that was the last to leave, he was several days in the house by himself, with 2 adults on the wire nearby coaxing him as best they could, then they were gone, about the same time they usually go, around the week of Aug 12th. Awfully quiet around here.joyjazz wrote:My Martins here in MN are behind too, but they're trying hard to catch up. Now feeding babies. I have about 8-9 pair.