Hawk Eye HD Camera

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Matt F.
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Location: Houston, TX

sssSMOKING wrote:Hey Matt,
Do you have a "Black Out" going on? :shock:
I was showing my grand kids your web site and everything is black.
Thanks
Richard
Hi Richard,
Oh man - I've had a catastrophic equipment failure.
Either the camera, or the server has suffered some type of hardware issue(s).
I've done some troubleshooting, and surprisingly it looks like the camera may have croaked.
I say "surprisingly" because that little camera has been rock solid for quite a few years.
The video server, on the other hand, is at least 14 years old, and reminds me of the Millennium Falcon in the first Star Wars movie, where everything has to be hit, kicked, etc. to start working again. :lol:
I apologize for the current "off the air" status.
I'm going to be working feverishly this week to get it going again.
Part of the feverish work may very well be getting quotes for a new camera, and/or video server...... :shock:
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sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

Matt,
I keep checking your camera and still see black. :x
You should have them thick my now.
I have my camera installed and in the gourd. Cold weather here in VA has made it a very slow season so far.
In the last week I have 2 males that are interested, one did go into the gourd that I had the camera in.
He sure looked large, is there a way to zoom out with this camera?
Matt do you or anyone know if this camera has a zoom feature?
Thanks,
Richard
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sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

Finally have martins in VA.
Here are a few photos from the camera.
The Hawk Eye camera is connect to my 42" TV, then I took my hand camera and took these photos.
The only thing is the martins are so large on the big TV! :shock:
The camera has great video.
Thanks for viewing.
Richard
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Pair of Martins looking out there gourd.
Pair of Martins looking out there gourd.
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They look the size of pigeons or chickens!!!!
They look the size of pigeons or chickens!!!!
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Okie
Posts: 541
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:26 pm
Location: Claremore, OK
Martin Colony History: 2016 Informed landlord now Have 2 pair returning from 2015 That is a miracle. Hoping for a very successful year, sparrow population on decline.
First house was plastic with crescent holes Had martins within a few days. Ignorant landlord gradually lost them
Then got Trio House and still lost most of them. Lots of sparrows

Wow Richard they ARE large on that tv
Can't orient as to how the pic is the underside of the birds AND the nesting material.
Activity is slowly increasing at my little site leaving me thrilled and hopeful for an increase this year. Any addition is better than one ha ha.
Keep posting pics they are really interesting.
Okie
PMCA member
2016 Started with 2 pair, 1 pair abandoned after HOSP destroyed eggs
1 pair= 6 eggs, 6 fledged
2017 1 pair so far, But they abandoned before nest complete for ?reason? Now Bridless and joined the Wannabes
2018 One pair ASY male SY female 5 eggs, 5 fledged
sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

Matt F. wrote:
sssSMOKING wrote:Hey Matt,
Do you have a "Black Out" going on? :shock:
I was showing my grand kids your web site and everything is black.
Thanks
Richard
Hi Richard,
Oh man - I've had a catastrophic equipment failure.
Either the camera, or the server has suffered some type of hardware issue(s).
I've done some troubleshooting, and surprisingly it looks like the camera may have croaked.
I say "surprisingly" because that little camera has been rock solid for quite a few years.
The video server, on the other hand, is at least 14 years old, and reminds me of the Millennium Falcon in the first Star Wars movie, where everything has to be hit, kicked, etc. to start working again. :lol:
I apologize for the current "off the air" status.
I'm going to be working feverishly this week to get it going again.
Part of the feverish work may very well be getting quotes for a new camera, and/or video server...... :shock:
Good Morning Matt,
I see you have your camera up and running. I am looking at a pair of Martins now.
What did you find wrong?
How did you mount your camera (have any photos)?
Matt would you like to add your web link for others to view?
Richard
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Matt F.
Posts: 3978
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

Good morning Richard.
I feel terrible it took so long to resolve.
There were some major things going on (moving, major flu, etc.) that put me way behind.
The problem (which I though for sure was the old server) turned out to be a splice out near the pole, that had broken.
Those were new splices, that I did not think would've been the problem.
I was wrong.
So glad it's back up going. Hopefully it stays up!
Great idea about reposting the link Richard:
http://prtl.uhcl.edu/environmental-inst ... ple-martin

I have had the hardest time over the years, making a mount that is sturdy, and utilizes the gourd's inspection port (threaded so it can it be easily removed for nest checks, and, moved to another gourd mid-season, if needed.
I've come up with numerous rigs, but all have proven to either be not sturdy, or, not easily removable.

I've tried a different mounting point this season.
The gourds are Troyer verticals.
I've mounted the camera at the front of the tunnel, above the Conley II wing-entrapment guard, pointing towards the back of the gourd.

One thing about these Hawk Eye cameras (standard def and high def) is that they need to be mounted as far from the nest as possible, due to their narrow field of view.
I noticed you had commented about that as well, about the Martins taking up the whole screen.
This definitely makes it a bit more tricky when positioning them, to allow for a wider field of view.

However, like I mentioned in a previous post, these Hawk Eye cameras (what the PMCA store has) are extremely high quality.
Our Hawk Eye camera has been through the ringer (left outside for years, handling power surges and even shorts, etc.), and is still working beautifully! Even the IR "night vision" is still working perfect.
I can't say enough good things about the quality of the Hawk Eye cameras.
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Matt F.
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Location: Houston, TX

It looks like I'm still getting some intermittent video signal loss, which appears as screen flicker, and jumping back and forth from a blank, black screen.
Another thing to look at this weekend....... :roll:
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Matt F.
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Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

I've also noticed that little Mrs. Martin has shimmied and shuffled to create a nice nest cup, all the way down to the plastic.
I'll be adding some more pine needles to "assist" her....... :mrgreen:
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GeneP
Posts: 525
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:35 am
Location: Kansas, Lawrence
Martin Colony History: 1 gourd rack with 24 gourd capacity. 2018, my 11th year hosting martins.
18 pair in 2017.

Windows 10 doesn't allow audio from the HD camera to be uploaded.
It's fine for your tv, but you can't share audio to the web. Bummer, I bought the HD camera.
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sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

Matt F. wrote:Good morning Richard.
I feel terrible it took so long to resolve.
There were some major things going on (moving, major flu, etc.) that put me way behind.
The problem (which I though for sure was the old server) turned out to be a splice out near the pole, that had broken.
Those were new splices, that I did not think would've been the problem.
I was wrong.
So glad it's back up going. Hopefully it stays up!
Great idea about reposting the link Richard:
http://prtl.uhcl.edu/environmental-inst ... ple-martin

I have had the hardest time over the years, making a mount that is sturdy, and utilizes the gourd's inspection port (threaded so it can it be easily removed for nest checks, and, moved to another gourd mid-season, if needed.
I've come up with numerous rigs, but all have proven to either be not sturdy, or, not easily removable.

I've tried a different mounting point this season.
The gourds are Troyer verticals.
I've mounted the camera at the front of the tunnel, above the Conley II wing-entrapment guard, pointing towards the back of the gourd.

One thing about these Hawk Eye cameras (standard def and high def) is that they need to be mounted as far from the nest as possible, due to their narrow field of view.
I noticed you had commented about that as well, about the Martins taking up the whole screen.
This definitely makes it a bit more tricky when positioning them, to allow for a wider field of view.

However, like I mentioned in a previous post, these Hawk Eye cameras (what the PMCA store has) are extremely high quality.
Our Hawk Eye camera has been through the ringer (left outside for years, handling power surges and even shorts, etc.), and is still working beautifully! Even the IR "night vision" is still working perfect.
I can't say enough good things about the quality of the Hawk Eye cameras.
Matt this is a great Read!
For anyone interesting in this camera where you say "need to be mounted as far from the nest as possible, due to their narrow field of view." is so true. Thanks Matt.
Richard
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sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

GeneP wrote:Windows 10 doesn't allow audio from the HD camera to be uploaded.
It's fine for your tv, but you can't share audio to the web. Bummer, I bought the HD camera.
GeneP
Here may be a work around.
There are a number of Bluetooth speakers and Radios that have a 3.5 mm input.
I would think you could take the audio from the camera (Hawk Eye) and use a "3.5 mm to Triple RCA Audio" adapter (search on Amazon, $6.99) and connect to a Bluetooth speaker or a radio with 3.5 mm input.
I have both the Bluetooth speaker and a radio with 3.5 mm input and I will try this and see if it works (may be next week before I can test)
The more I think about this I am thinking it will only work if your Bluetooth speaker has a volume button. :???:
I do think it will work as a input on a radio.
I will check!!

Thanks for your input Gene. I do really enjoy the chirping and all of the noise the martins make, the sound is very clear as is the video. On my pair of PM it seem the male makes most of the noise.
Video, I think sometimes i can see steam coming out of there mouth on a cold day :shock: The video is so clear!
Richard
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GeneP
Posts: 525
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:35 am
Location: Kansas, Lawrence
Martin Colony History: 1 gourd rack with 24 gourd capacity. 2018, my 11th year hosting martins.
18 pair in 2017.

sssSmoking, I'm sorry, I'm talking about uploading to Ustream.tv to share with others. I can get sound on my computer and television but am unable to livestream on the internet.
PMCA Member, Single Gourd Rack, 2019 marks 12 years hosting martins.
sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

GeneP wrote:sssSmoking, I'm sorry, I'm talking about uploading to Ustream.tv to share with others. I can get sound on my computer and television but am unable to livestream on the internet.
I should have read your post better, Well if we could get Matt to chime in he may be able to help.
He has his camera link to the web. I don't think he has sound but he may be able to answer your question.
Matt can you help?
Richard
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Matt F.
Posts: 3978
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

Hi Gene and Richard,
Gene, that is uncharted waters for myself as well.
On our setup, the analog camera signal is going to a video encoder, which then converts it to a digital signal, which is then inserted to our webpage.
Note: As if there wasn't enough video issues, our university just cut over to a new web platform, and the video feed has not been added to the new page.
For now (and when and if it's working (old, glitchy encoder is on its last leg) here is the direct link:
http://noacamera.uhcl.edu/axis-cgi/mjpg ... on=704x480

As far as recording, and uploading a video like you mentioned, I have not done.
From what you're describing, is almost sounds like there is something on the Ustream site itself, that is blocking the audio component of your video upload(s).
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Thais G
Posts: 93
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 6:37 pm
Location: CT/Darien
Martin Colony History: Started at unsuitable location in 2008. Many lessons learned since. Two tentative locations: Rogers International School and the "Fish Church" (downtown.) One pair in 2015; no fledglings though. No pairs 2016.

Just to answer the question about wireless - I did a lot of research about this for my school projects and here is what I found out:

The first and easiest answer is: there are several excellent quality cameras if your wi-fi signal reaches your colony location. (~$100-200 bucks)


Now, for most of us, internet is not available at the site, so we are now talking wireless in the sense of radio frequency/transmission.

Under that category (radio) there is a HawkEye wireless (not HD!), but I had a terrible experience with it and finally returned it. I do not recommend. (Please note "wireless" is in reference to the video, you still need wired power to the camera.)

What I ended up doing (because I am at a school and cannot get a cable through the walls of the building) is buying a 5.8 Ghz transmitter (with 6 channels) and receiver (~$50 bucks.) So the camera used is the same, but instead of cable going from gourd into the tv, it goes into the transmitter (at the pole location.) Then, inside the house, at the tv location, you plug in the receiver. You then synchronize them as best you can. I got acceptable results that way, but never the same quality as a wired connection. I still recommend this setup if: (a) there is no internet where the colony is located AND (b) you cannot run a wired connection (either over paths or through walls - like in my case at a public school!)

Note: I have learned to avoid the 2.4Ghz transmitters as apparently it has bad interference from the wi-fi signals!!

I am a complete amateur on this and learned by many recent frustrations.... still, I hope this helps!
Best,
Thais
Thais Gherardi
Wannabe Landlord in Stamford, CT (2 tentative sites):
- Rogers International School (S&K barn since 2013; Alamo House installed 2016)
- "Fish Church"/downtown Stamford (Alamo House installed 2016)
sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

Matt F. wrote:Hi Gene and Richard,
Gene, that is uncharted waters for myself as well.
On our setup, the analog camera signal is going to a video encoder, which then converts it to a digital signal, which is then inserted to our webpage.
Note: As if there wasn't enough video issues, our university just cut over to a new web platform, and the video feed has not been added to the new page.
For now (and when and if it's working (old, glitchy encoder is on its last leg) here is the direct link:
http://noacamera.uhcl.edu/axis-cgi/mjpg ... on=704x480

As far as recording, and uploading a video like you mentioned, I have not done.
From what you're describing, is almost sounds like there is something on the Ustream site itself, that is blocking the audio component of your video upload(s).
Good morning Matt,
I just checked your camera and I see 4 eggs!!
Nicely done!
Richard
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Matt F.
Posts: 3978
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

sssSMOKING wrote:Good morning Matt,
I just checked your camera and I see 4 eggs!!
Nicely done!
Richard
Thanks Richard.
I've cut the bitrate of the video stream back, in hopes that the old encoder can handle it better, without as many crashes.
This causes the video to appear a bit choppy, but hopefully it helps to quell the crashes.
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sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

I have had a great time seeing the process and watching these too.
I hope I will be able to see the first one hatch.
Thanks.
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Matt F.
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Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

That's exciting Richard!
I noticed this morning we had babies.
I think they were still eggs yesterday, so I believe they hatched sometime during the last 24 hours.
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sssSMOKING
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: Verona / VA
Martin Colony History: >>>>>>>>
2023 _ 18 pairs, 60 Fledged
2022 > 19 pairs, 58 Fledged
2021 > 20 pairs, 85 Fledged
2020 > 20 pairs, 39 Fledged
2019 > 20 pairs, 92 Fledged
2018 > 15 pairs, 39 Fledged
2017 > 12 pairs, 43 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 > Several Lookers

Matt F. wrote:That's exciting Richard!
I noticed this morning we had babies.
I think they were still eggs yesterday, so I believe they hatched sometime during the last 24 hours.
You sure do, I just checked your camera http://noacamera.uhcl.edu
My eggs should have hatch on May 22nd.
I will be watching closely!!
Richard
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