This cold / wet snap isn't helping any

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Chris B
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: AL/Toney

I had 3 nice scouts singing and hanging around the best gourd rack but the weather has really turned lousey here in N Alabama. It will be teens / low 20's tonight and I fear they won't make it. No supplemental feeding here, and I don't see how one can put any out in the wind and rain anyways. These are the most mature and smartest birds, but why the heck do they have to come up so early?

Good luck guys, I hope you pull through.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
~Ray~Gingerich
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Location: Delaware/Dover

Chris this might be the best time to get your birds trained, they will be hungry
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
ToyinPA
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Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:07 pm
Location: PA/Avis
Martin Colony History: The 1972 St. Agnes flood wiped out all the Martins in my area. One day, in 1997-98, 5 or 6 Martins landed on the power wires crossing my back yard. I had no house for them. They kept coming back day after day. We got a martin house a few weeks later & they have been coming back every year since. I average 12-15 pair per year.

Chris B wrote:I had 3 nice scouts singing and hanging around the best gourd rack but the weather has really turned lousey here in N Alabama. It will be teens / low 20's tonight and I fear they won't make it. No supplemental feeding here, and I don't see how one can put any out in the wind and rain anyways. These are the most mature and smartest birds, but why the heck do they have to come up so early?

Good luck guys, I hope you pull through.
I agree ...it'd be a good time to attempt supplemental feeding. Also you can put hand warmers in the cavities. I use the 10 hour ones. I place them about an hour before dark. If you have houses & there are empty lower levels use those for the handwarmers & then close off the opening. The heat will warm the floor above.

We had 11 straight days of snow/freezing rain/wind & cold last year right after the first ones arrived. Handwarmrs & supplemental feeding saved them all.

I'm glad none are here right now. We just got 12.5 inches of snow & it's still coming down.

Toy in PA
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AkitaSan
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Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:10 am
Location: Michigan, Southeast

Please, don't give up. Food is fuel - don't worry about flipping crickets. Put the food directly in their gourd. Hand warmers are cheap to purchase, at least up North here and should be placed underneath the bedding. We experience this same situation every year and this is how our birds learned to eat crickets and eggs. Best of luck
Shros
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Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:05 am
Location: Munith, MI

AkitaSan, my colony is located in SouthCentral MI (near Jackson) and would like to talk to you about your supplemental feeding procedures. I had 9 pairs last year and I'm concerned about a cold/wet April. I don't live at the site (it's at my cottage) and I would like to talk strategy with you if you have some time. Bob.
AkitaSan
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Location: Michigan, Southeast

Hi Shros, nice to meet you; we are practically neighbors and I would love to talk Martins. If you would like, you can email me at [email protected].
KyleJKP
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Joined: Sat May 14, 2016 1:57 pm
Location: NEArkansas
Martin Colony History: 2018 - 45 pair; 171 fledged
2017 - 18 pair; 77 fledged
2016 - 1 pair; 3 fledged

In what ways do you provide the supplemental food and what exactly do you use for food? This is my second year being a PM landlord and I had 2 show up 2 weeks ago and would hate to see anything happen to them due to inclement weather. It is misting rain and snow right now and looks to get down to 28 degrees tonight and 24 degrees tomorrow night before returning to the high 60s low 70s later this week.... How much cold can they take?.... Any info would be greatly appreciated
AkitaSan
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Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:10 am
Location: Michigan, Southeast

Kyle, you are a lucky guy in that you only have 2 Martins rather than 2 dozen. Kudos to you for your concern. A Martin can probably make it three days without food, but to be sure they survive you can feed crickets, scrambled eggs, or both. We feed both and place the food directly in the nest cavity. There are some Martins that will not eat from the feeding tray, so to ensure that food is available to all in inclement weather we place it off to the side in the nest. You will find some good info at the top of the forum page about supplemental feeding. As our weather is changing I found it to be extremely important to erect a feeding tray as a Martin's normal source of food can disappear. There are many experts on this forum that I hope will chime in; so don't hesitate to ask questions.
eyeamtheman
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Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:21 pm
Location: Quitman, La
Martin Colony History: Super colony

There are topics on here y'all can read that gives detailed instructions on training your birds. It DOES take determination and persistence and it's easy to get frustrated. It usually always starts out with flipping crickets at them, then training them to eat eggs, then to eat either from a feeding tray. In my situation, my wrap around porch allows me to simply toss up handfuls of crickets and mostly eggs onto my roof, and the martins help themselves. Also, it's VERY satisfying when they can remember this the next year. It's amazing.
Johnny
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Martin Colony History: six pair in 2014, have grown to 52 pairs in 2017.

An experienced landlord has shared his experience with feeding and early arrivals. https://www.purplemartin.org/forum/view ... =2&t=31493
2011- first year trying, a few visitors.
2012-One ASY pair, raised two young, lots of subby visitors. So thankfull.
2013-daily subby visits.
2014-Six SY pairs
2015-18 pair, 83 fledglings
2016-36 pair, 147 fledglings
2017-52 pairs, 192 fledglings.
2018-60 pair, 246 fledglings.
2019-59 pair, 238 fledglings.
2020-62 pair.
2021-65 pair.
2022-63 pair.
2023-60 pair
2024-62 pair
Chris B
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: AL/Toney

So it was supposed to be in the teens/low 20's overnight. I looked out at the rack that has had activity and see a male laying on one of the porches just before sunset. He looked pretty hunkered down and when I walked down to investigate he flew to a nearby rack and a plastic gourd with porch. Panicking at the thought of him dying overnight, I cooked up some scrambled eggs and drove down to place them on the porches of a few gourds. Of course the eggs froze but the next morning I can see him going from porch to porch where the eggs were - not eating but checking things out. Putting eggs on the porches may be the solution to how I can feed them in cold weather. Only one more night of this and it will be warm again.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
AkitaSan
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Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:10 am
Location: Michigan, Southeast

Way to go Chris! In case your not aware, make sure you cut the egg into bird size pieces. Anything larger, they may not recognize as food. Replace a few times a day. Sounds like warmer temps are coming your way.
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