Ventilation holes in T-14

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Shoehorn
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Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:59 am
Location: North Alabama
Martin Colony History: Waited 10 years for the first PMs.
Now have had a nice little self-managed colony for 7 years.
2016 is my first year to actively manage.
Presenting 20 Super Gourds.
Building a T-14 for next year.

I'm building a T-14 PM house and had a question. Bluebird boxes have ventilation holes in them, but the T-14 plans don't call for any. Any advise from anyone familiar with T-14s as to whether I should drill vent holes in each box. I was thinking about two ¾" holes in the upper back of each separate compartment, maybe covered with screen on the outside to keep everyone safe. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Lozinger
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Location: Bangor PA

I asked Andrew Troyer the same question at the PM Information Session in Philly last month. He said that ventilation is not needed in a T-14 because of the wooden construction, and that his experience has shown no difference with ventilation vs no ventilation. Of course, he also said that some folks would disagree. But who am I to argue w/ Andrew Troyer?!? :grin:
Shoehorn
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Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:59 am
Location: North Alabama
Martin Colony History: Waited 10 years for the first PMs.
Now have had a nice little self-managed colony for 7 years.
2016 is my first year to actively manage.
Presenting 20 Super Gourds.
Building a T-14 for next year.

Lozinger, thanks so much for the reply. No arguing with the horses mouth!! No vent holes it is. I read somewhere that PMs like dark cavities for nesting so that may be part of it, but they're gonna get kinda warm down here in AL this summer. Really I guess by warm weather they are pretty much off the nest anyway. Thanks again.
tor
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity: 96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2026: We'll see.
2025: 92 pair - Fledge: 405
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

I wanted vents in the T14. I honestly think it helps lower the temperature and also gives better air circulation in the compartment. These soffit vents are 2 inch aluminum vents w/insects screens. Popped them in, and caulked around them. Perfect!

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Tor
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wyatt
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I used the same vents as Tor, but put them in the upper back of each compartment, painted them black for a darker compartment, and added screen. I think it helps.
Shoehorn
Posts: 12
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:59 am
Location: North Alabama
Martin Colony History: Waited 10 years for the first PMs.
Now have had a nice little self-managed colony for 7 years.
2016 is my first year to actively manage.
Presenting 20 Super Gourds.
Building a T-14 for next year.

Tor, Wyatt, that looks like a perfect solution. Allows air circulation and yet keeps it dark and covered. I've never seen those before. Are they typically available at home supply stores like Lowe's or Home Depot?
tor
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity: 96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2026: We'll see.
2025: 92 pair - Fledge: 405
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

Tor
Marlboro County
South Carolina

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ToyinPA
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Location: PA/Avis
Martin Colony History: The 1972 St. Agnes flood wiped out all the Martins in my area. One day, in 1997-98, 5 or 6 Martins landed on the power wires crossing my back yard. I had no house for them. They kept coming back day after day. We got a martin house a few weeks later & they have been coming back every year since. I average 12-15 pair per year.

I got mine here much cheaper:

http://www.ventmyhouse.com/products/2%2 ... -6%29.html

They come in different colors too.


ToyinPA
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rrmartins
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Location: Round Rock, TX

I got mine at my local sheet metal shop. They work great, keeps the rain out and allows airflow. It gets pretty hot here in Tx.
2021
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
tor
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity: 96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2026: We'll see.
2025: 92 pair - Fledge: 405
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

ToyinPA wrote:I got mine here much cheaper:

http://www.ventmyhouse.com/products/2%2 ... -6%29.html

They come in different colors too.


ToyinPA
Good find, Toy :mrgreen:
Tor
Marlboro County
South Carolina

Purple Martins Of South Carolina
wyatt
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Location: Florida/Tallahassee

I found them at Lowes, but it took a bit of searching.
tor
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity: 96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2026: We'll see.
2025: 92 pair - Fledge: 405
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

I don't think I would go past 2 inches though.
Tor
Marlboro County
South Carolina

Purple Martins Of South Carolina
JudyA
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Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:54 pm
Location: Clermont, FL

I live in Florida and I also used 2 inch vents. Half were white plastic and the other half were white aluminum, because that's what I could find. They all fit nice and tight. I'm very happy with them.

The martins don't seem to mind at all that they let a little light in. My new colony is doing great with the vents. 16 hatched with 4 fledged so far.

- Judy
2016 - 4 Pairs with 16 fledged
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