Unexpected departure of Martins

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Cymbalariadave
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Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:40 am
Location: Barnesville, Ga

My first scouts were reported on Feb 21. Between then and last week, about 24 Martins had arrived and were seemingly at home in my gourds. On Friday (3/11), we left for a weekend with friends in North Ga. On our return on Sunday afternoon, I saw no birds around. Still, no Martins around. This is a first in my 14+or- years as landlord. I would like to think they will come back or more will come. But I fear that there has been some predator event that sent them away. I have found no evidence of voilence but am not sure how to rule out a hawk or owl attack. Any comments?
Larry A Kronemeyer
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Location: Illinois/Millstadt

How awful. Every landlords nightmare. Hope someone is able to shed some light in this. Keep us posted.
Larry and Judy Kronemeyer
est. 1999
1-12 compartment Trendsetter and 8 gourds(crescents)
12 gourd rack (crescents)
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taxidermy lady
Posts: 2988
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Praying they come back for you! If there's no evidence you'll never know, it stays a mystery! Please keep us posted because this helps others. Good luck :grin:
Sharon from southern Illinois
MichaelH
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Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:10 am
Location: IL/Gillespie
Martin Colony History: 2015 28 cavities 2 pairs
2016 big upgrade 56cavities 16 pairs great year
2017. 76 cavities 36 pairs
2018. 146 cavities

That is a real shame for you hope they all come back and bring more friends with them ,sorry to hear about this ,must be real saddening ,keep positive and hopefully they will return.
2018 146 cavities.
Gauxt
Posts: 83
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:03 pm
Location: Louisiana/Prairieville
Martin Colony History: Started 2007
2013 1 Pair
2015 2 Pair
2016 4 Pair
2017 12 Pair
2018 15 Pair
2019 15 Pair
2020 19 Pair
2021 15 pair
2022 21 pair
2023 22 pair
2024 22 pair
2025 12 pair, downsized racks

Wow that is devastating. No kids with pellet guns around neighborhood? A game camera would be useful in situations like this, possibly shed some light. Hope they return.
2010-0
2011-visitors
2012-visitors
2013-1 pair
2014-0
2015-2 pair
2016 4 pair
2017 12 pair
2018 15 pair
2019 15 pair
2020 19 pair
2021 15 pair
2022 21 pair
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Site Admin
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Did you have predator guards in place on the poles? It seems unlikely that a hawk or owl could have run off all your birds in 2 days.
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Emil Pampell-Tx
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Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

My guess is a racoon or a snake. Very doubtful, but an owl is a possibility. Its nearly impossible to say because we do not know what kind of setup you have such as predator guard, type of predator guard, depth of cavities, type of owl protection, wire cage around the housing, etc.
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
Cymbalariadave
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Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:40 am
Location: Barnesville, Ga

Great news ...... at least for now. Got up this morning to see about 12 Martins flying around the colony and coming out of the gourds. I truly hope this means that they were just out for the weekend, same as we were.
Cymbalariadave
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Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:40 am
Location: Barnesville, Ga

Details on my setup:
two 15' poles with 12 gourds each.
no cages or other protection on entrances.
stovepipe baffle on each pole.
Troyer starling trap about 75' away.
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2988
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Glad they are back! Good luck! :grin:
Sharon from southern Illinois
BW Fowler
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Location: TX/Buda

Yes, good to hear that many are still around. As mentioned by the forum admin, I would think it would be very unusual to have so many birds just gone in such a short time, especially since you have predator guards on both poles. Maybe they took a long weekend vacation at the nearest lake to dine on the local cuisine?

Hey, you never know!

Good luck this year,
BW
2009-2013 a few visitors.
2014: 1 pair of SY love birds, 5 fledges; 2015: 7 pair, 34 Fldg; 2016: 12p/54F; 2017: 14p/71F;
2018: 24p/103F; 2019: 29p/130F; 2020: 38p/190F
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