Question Re: Scout Reporting

[Dave Reynolds]

Louise ---- Thanks for your reply to MamaBruff's question.. Also Thanks for thinking about reconsidering the guide lines for reporting "Scouts" on the Scout Reporting Page. I think as others do, it may be a little out dated. Lets keep the "Wan-a-bees" in the system. They will be our new Landlords someday.

Dave

[DornCounty]

Mary,
You are an active landlord. Just because they didn't return doesn't mean you are not active. You had a pair, they fledged young.
Submit the report.
Some people on this forum are way overboard.
You are an active landlord. Wishing and praying that you have many more pairs this year.
Have been watching the weathwer channel. Hope you are okay in Joplin
Yvonne

First off you need to relax a bit. I was quoting the rules posted within the report guidelines. No one was going overboard, it was an adult discussion. IT clearly states there that is it used for scientific study. No one is getting after or discouraging anyone. Bruff will get her martins this year.

Bruff it was April 24th when I go my first martin when I started.

[baileysambone]

If this is an adult discussion, they why are you still carrying on about it ?
I think Louise clarified things for everyone.
Perhaps, you are the one who needs to relax a bit.

[Vern1]

The scout map gives a good visual of migration patterns based on very limited reports.
Unfortunately, the information obtained and displayed is based on probably less than 5% of the Martin Landlords in the US reporting.

[avesrun]

Another suggestion I'll offer is that active/inactive landlords could take on reporting scouts for a previously unreported established site.
I gained permission from the course manager at a golf course that's about 2 mi from my home to "monitor" their pm houses. According to him, they've been putting out their houses for close to 50 years! They are completely old school with no winches or pulleys with all poles that can only be dropped in their entirety by removing hinge bolts. But they do host martins every season despite no s&s control or any other management. They have 4-5 houses that I'm going to try and determine exactly how many pairs are using this season. I've only been watching three of the houses the last two seasons but plan to find time to check on the other two as well this season. Unfortunately, they don't seem interested in upgrading equipment at this time. I also will be reporting my first scout observation at the location as well.
If anyone has a similar established yet unmanaged/unreported location near them I don't see why you couldn't drop by and introduce yourself to the landlord and ask them some backround on how many years they've been putting up housing and if they'd mind if you report their scouts, and if possible and confirm how many pairs they're hosting, watch for fledglings, etc.
TimG

[Dave Reynolds]

TimG ---

Another suggestion I'll offer is that active/inactive landlords could take on reporting scouts for a previously unreported established site.
I gained permission from the course manager at a golf course that's about 2 mi from my home to "monitor" their pm houses. According to him, they've been putting out their houses for close to 50 years! They are completely old school with no winches or pulleys with all poles that can only be dropped in their entirety by removing hinge bolts. But they do host martins every season despite no s&s control or any other management. They have 4-5 houses that I'm going to try and determine exactly how many pairs are using this season. I've only been watching three of the houses the last two seasons but plan to find time to check on the other two as well this season. Unfortunately, they don't seem interested in upgrading equipment at this time. I also will be reporting my first scout observation at the location as well.

If anyone has a similar established yet unmanaged/unreported location near them I don't see why you couldn't drop by and introduce yourself to the landlord and ask them some backround on how many years they've been putting up housing and if they'd mind if you report their scouts, and if possible and confirm how many pairs they're hosting, watch for fledglings, etc.
TimG

Thanks for your input Tim... You must have read my mind... I to have a Golf Course within two or three miles of me. The Manager allowed me to put up housing on the course, so I could help him get his Martin's count back up to what it used to be. After I put up my house he decided to replace two of his old beat up houses. Since the course has Martins and has had Martins for many years, I reported when the Scouts arrived.

Dave

[avesrun]

Dave we are in the same boat! I just spoke with the golf course owner again yesterday. He wants to to the same thing. Upgrade one system at a time. I have offered to do All the work; (except financing :-) it's pretty exciting. They have had housing for around 50 years! But have experienced a marked decline in martin numbers (no surprise). I'm meeting with him week after next to tour the course and check out all the housing and make plans.
Good luck your way.
Tim

[DebA]

That's great, Tim and Dave. I am so glad they are upgrading. Nice work.
Deb