7 years and going..
After 7 years of having a prosperous colony, my numbers appear to be dwindling. The Hawks have become more prevalent through the years and and im down to 22 birds. Have an army of decoys and my paintball gun does its job at times with its loud report. I'm not gonna give up however. Good to see so many people from the past here, best regards. 
"We can judge the heart of man by his treatment of animals." - Immanual Kant.
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Anthony Neira
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Hi Julio, Sorry to hear about the hawks, Maybe (?) try a wire cage like Kathy has for Owls ? Might be one of the last resorts ? Let's see the PM Brain trust chime in !
Good luck ! Keep us posted !!
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Started in 1992 from Older '50-'60s Colonies.
Great to hear from you Julio!
I often wonder how you and your colony are doing.
I'm afraid what you're seeing at your colony, is something that's becoming more and more common.
The smaller raptors, in this case the Sharpies and Cooper's Hawks, are not only adapting to urban sprawl, but they're thriving.
They are taking full advantage of an unfair situation - bird feeders and housing that our songbirds rely on, and congregate at.
For them, it really is the proverbial "shooting fish in a barrel", when stalking and attacking bird feeders and housing.
What makes our situation with the Martins even more dire, is we talking about a species of songbird that is already dwindling in numbers, even without this new threat of an exploding Accipiter population.
Hopefully, with the help of efforts from folks like the PMCA's Chief Biologist Jim Ray, federal and state wildlife entities will take notice, and do something.
Something like if someone has Purple Martins, and they are experiencing repeated attacks, they can contact their state DNR or USFWS, and they will send someone out to legally trap, and relocate the offending raptor.
I know that's probably a total pipe dream, but one can still hope.
I often wonder how you and your colony are doing.
I'm afraid what you're seeing at your colony, is something that's becoming more and more common.
The smaller raptors, in this case the Sharpies and Cooper's Hawks, are not only adapting to urban sprawl, but they're thriving.
They are taking full advantage of an unfair situation - bird feeders and housing that our songbirds rely on, and congregate at.
For them, it really is the proverbial "shooting fish in a barrel", when stalking and attacking bird feeders and housing.
What makes our situation with the Martins even more dire, is we talking about a species of songbird that is already dwindling in numbers, even without this new threat of an exploding Accipiter population.
Hopefully, with the help of efforts from folks like the PMCA's Chief Biologist Jim Ray, federal and state wildlife entities will take notice, and do something.
Something like if someone has Purple Martins, and they are experiencing repeated attacks, they can contact their state DNR or USFWS, and they will send someone out to legally trap, and relocate the offending raptor.
I know that's probably a total pipe dream, but one can still hope.
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Louise Chambers
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Julio, is there anything you can do to make your site more open? I was looking at some of your photos and don't know current amount/distance to trees, but open space = increased safety from hawks.
Matt, I doubt that state or federal wildlife would be willing to trap & relocate hawks, especially if they are nesting. The best things landlords can do is to maintain as much open space as possible around their martin systems, and use decoys, both martin and dove. Installing cages will help too.
Matt, I doubt that state or federal wildlife would be willing to trap & relocate hawks, especially if they are nesting. The best things landlords can do is to maintain as much open space as possible around their martin systems, and use decoys, both martin and dove. Installing cages will help too.
Great point Louise, about not being feasible to relocate while nesting.Louise Chambers wrote:Matt, I doubt that state or federal wildlife would be willing to trap & relocate hawks, especially if they are nesting. The best things landlords can do is to maintain as much open space as possible around their martin systems, and use decoys, both martin and dove. Installing cages will help too.
You are absolutely right.
Like you mentioned, the best thing we can do, is to make it as difficult as possible for the hawks to sneak up on, and grab a Martin.
There have been so many great testimonials about the hawks mistakingly going for a decoy, and in turn giving the Martins a chance to clear out, unharmed.
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James Strickland FL
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2018 Had 1 pair
2019 had 30 pair
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Julio, I understand your frustration. I have had more hawk attacks this
year than I remember before. Last year my birds would land in my yard
to collect nesting material but this year they are flying in with mouthfuls
from somewhere else. When they come in with the material they fly real
fast into there gourd. I have them safe from owls now but this hawk
is a challenge. I am going to get more decoys out and see if that slows
him down. Around three years ago I had around thirty pair now between
the owls and the hawks I have less than ten pair so far.
I am excited about these few and still enjoy them being around so don't
give up.
Dallas
year than I remember before. Last year my birds would land in my yard
to collect nesting material but this year they are flying in with mouthfuls
from somewhere else. When they come in with the material they fly real
fast into there gourd. I have them safe from owls now but this hawk
is a challenge. I am going to get more decoys out and see if that slows
him down. Around three years ago I had around thirty pair now between
the owls and the hawks I have less than ten pair so far.
I am excited about these few and still enjoy them being around so don't
give up.
Dallas
Thanks for the replies everyone, im going to attempt to open my site more perhaps by thinning out these large oak trees nearby, i cant do anything about the neighboring trees though. I'm probably going to build a dock in the lake and extend the housing 25 feet away from the trees further into the lake. Darn hawks i wish we had more flexibility with these darn things. Good to hear from all of you, glad you guys are all still active. James hows that colony of yours doing?
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