Canada Martins
Interesting question RR.
My theory is this (which may be waaaay off)......
Thousands of years ago, when there were lots of Martins, but not so many available nesting cavities, I think there were many Martins that found as they migrated back north to nest, many of the available nesting locations - starting with the most southern locations, were already taken.
This forced them to trek further north, until they found a vacancy.
At one point (again, probably thousands of years ago), there were so many Martins, and so little available nesting sites, that some had to continue north into Canada, until they found a place to nest.
I believe that's how their massive range, east of the Rockies, was initially established.
I believe this fierce competition, and sense of urgency to find available cavities, is also what explains the drive to arrive back so early (sometime way too early) that we still see today.
My theory is this (which may be waaaay off)......
Thousands of years ago, when there were lots of Martins, but not so many available nesting cavities, I think there were many Martins that found as they migrated back north to nest, many of the available nesting locations - starting with the most southern locations, were already taken.
This forced them to trek further north, until they found a vacancy.
At one point (again, probably thousands of years ago), there were so many Martins, and so little available nesting sites, that some had to continue north into Canada, until they found a place to nest.
I believe that's how their massive range, east of the Rockies, was initially established.
I believe this fierce competition, and sense of urgency to find available cavities, is also what explains the drive to arrive back so early (sometime way too early) that we still see today.
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Louise Chambers
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Another possible reason for traveling further north to nest - the further north martins go, the more hours of daylight are available for feeding nestlings.
Both great theories. We're thinking probably some of both. I wish I could study it somehow, but have no idea where to start. Anybody know if National Geographic will have a show on martins this year?
2021
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
Great question I've also wondered why, and both great theorys, but I don't understand why they haven't figured out by now they don't need to go so far, and have learned that they can stay in warmer climates in the U.S.
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- Martin Colony History: Start 2009 with one pair. Upgraded from S&K houses to two Trendsetter 12's with gourds beneath in 2013. I have experienced job, pet, and parental losses since '13. The Purple Martins lift my spirits and remind me how life continues forward by flying their little selves from Brazil back to my yard. As one forum person once told me, chin up DebA, look at the martins. Danger all around but yet they soar in the sky without a care in the world.
My theory is:
Southern US martins...clearly smart/lazy.
Midwest US martins...just right.
Canada martins...clearly show off overachievers.
Deb
Southern US martins...clearly smart/lazy.
Midwest US martins...just right.
Canada martins...clearly show off overachievers.
Deb
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Pratt County, Kansas
2016 34 PAIR
2015 27 PAIR
2014 23 PAIR
2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
Pratt County, Kansas
2016 34 PAIR
2015 27 PAIR
2014 23 PAIR
2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
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madattiver
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- Martin Colony History: 12 unit North Star + 4 gourds
2014 - 1 pair
2015 - 1 pair
2016 - 1 pair + 1 sub male (until my female died)
2017 - 6 pair
Deb,
That brought a chuckle this morning as I read that one. I sure am glad there are show off overachiever martins so I can enjoy them throughout the summer. It would be a shame if they stayed south.. spread the joy.. spread the joy...
That brought a chuckle this morning as I read that one. I sure am glad there are show off overachiever martins so I can enjoy them throughout the summer. It would be a shame if they stayed south.. spread the joy.. spread the joy...
Adam
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Connie
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- Martin Colony History: Had my site up to 22 gourds of which most (+/-3) stayed occupied.
Downsized to 17 gourds due to back surgeries. Had 14 families in 2017 but did not do nest checks due to health. Feeling better in 2018 and hoping for a good year.
Thanks Deb,
You and Matt both gave me a chuckle today. Matt in another post I read.
I needed a good laugh today.
Happy Martin Season.

You and Matt both gave me a chuckle today. Matt in another post I read.
I needed a good laugh today.
Happy Martin Season.
Connie
I know exactly why they do it being Canadian myself. You mistaken them for being a true Purple Martin which is not the case. They are called "Snowbirds" and like every Canadian Snowbird, they head south for the winter to bath in the warmth & sun but have to come back into Canada at least once a year to maintain their free health care. They have their babies in Canada to ensure they are born Canadian to ensure they have the benefit of free health care as well. 
2015 = ?
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Hopefully this will be your year Steve. Good luck with your snow birds.SteveJ wrote:I know exactly why they do it being Canadian myself. You mistaken them for being a true Purple Martin which is not the case. They are called "Snowbirds" and like every Canadian Snowbird, they head south for the winter to bath in the warmth & sun but have to come back into Canada at least once a year to maintain their free health care. They have their babies in Canada to ensure they are born Canadian to ensure they have the benefit of free health care as well.
2021
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
