First time to see a Starling
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AnnieM
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- Location: Spring Branch/Canyon Lake ~ Mystic Shores, Comal County, TX
- Martin Colony History: 2012 - 4 pair
2013 - 11 pair
2014 - 12 pair
2015 - 14 pair
2016 - Arrival Feb 28 - 17 pair
2017 - Full house for first time. 24 gourds all occupied. :-)
Yesterday morning was sitting at the kitchen table with my coffee watching the collection of birds squabbling over the feeders in the cold. Something caught my attention out on our gourd rack. I could see a head poking in and out of the gourd and it looked dark blue! It appeared to be removing some of the new nesting material I'd put in the gourds and tossing it out on the porch. I grabbed my binocs while thinking, "sure hope it's not a martin...too cold!" and then I saw a yellow beak poke out of the opening. The bird threw out a few more pieces of nesting material and then EASILY exited the SREH entrance on the Troyer gourd, sat on the porch long enuf for me to ID the white speckles on its body, and then flew off. I sat there in shock. I read all the time about starlings, but in the 10 years we've lived out here, have never seen one before. And here this one was inside the gourd!! But what shocked me even more was that the starling didn't seem to struggle the least bit exiting the gourd. Have not seen it since, but am wondering what was the behavior of removing the nesting material? Why is there a starling here when there are no martins yet? And why was he so easily able to negotiate the SREH? 
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2012 - 4 pair
2013 - 11 pair
2014 - 12 pair
2015 - 14 pair
2016 - Arrival Feb 29/17 pair
2017 - Full house first time-24 gourds all occupied
2012 - 4 pair
2013 - 11 pair
2014 - 12 pair
2015 - 14 pair
2016 - Arrival Feb 29/17 pair
2017 - Full house first time-24 gourds all occupied
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~Ray~Gingerich
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The starlings up here are scruffy and under weight, I believe the cold winter has taken it's toll.
Your starling might have ideas of nesting and wants to fill the cavity with it's own trashy looking nest. You could raise your porch to the bottom of your SREH opening with a slick material
Your starling might have ideas of nesting and wants to fill the cavity with it's own trashy looking nest. You could raise your porch to the bottom of your SREH opening with a slick material
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
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Louise Chambers
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Annie, that's always a
moment, seeing a starling zipping in & out of a starling-resistant entrance. More info from you would help so we can share ideas for fixes.
Was it in a house or gourd? What type of SREH? Often the problem can be fixed by raising the porch (many threads on this here). Another fix is the Lewis modification, which is adding a wing entrapment guard on the outside of the SREH, sometimes raising the porch along with this one.
You can also put a cavity trap in the house or gourd.
Was it in a house or gourd? What type of SREH? Often the problem can be fixed by raising the porch (many threads on this here). Another fix is the Lewis modification, which is adding a wing entrapment guard on the outside of the SREH, sometimes raising the porch along with this one.
You can also put a cavity trap in the house or gourd.
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eyeamtheman
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We've all read about a starling here and there getting in a SREH. Something a little different about em, maybe? Or maybe you can adjust that entrance slightly, as what was already mentioned. Instant success tho is a bullet, and that's all I use. I'm lucky enough to still use round holes and not have a lot of starlings around. And a pretty accurate .22 rifle.
Johnny
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AnnieM
- Posts: 183
- Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:57 pm
- Location: Spring Branch/Canyon Lake ~ Mystic Shores, Comal County, TX
- Martin Colony History: 2012 - 4 pair
2013 - 11 pair
2014 - 12 pair
2015 - 14 pair
2016 - Arrival Feb 28 - 17 pair
2017 - Full house for first time. 24 gourds all occupied. :-)
More info... We have only 24 cavities the majority of which are Troyer Vertical gourds with Conley 2 entrances. Six are Excluder gourds with crescent entrances. I have them all ready to go but have not raised them all the way up as our martins are not due until March 12-14.
I left open one gourd on each pole in case of an early, after dark arrival. A HOSP pair immediately found one of the open gourds and have been hanging around going in and out, so I was even more surprised that the HOSPs allowed a starling to go into "their" gourd. The HOSP's days are numbered...
Two pics are attached, one is what I "think" y'all are referring to re raised porches. I read an article by Mike Sculley (I think it was) in San Antonio who was doing extensive testing of the raised porches with inconclusive results. Another post re modifying the 'slick' raised entrance to help keep the martins stable, thus defeating the Starling-proof properties. So then I got confused. I'm willing to give anything a try if y'all have suggestions.
The pic with the red arrow points to the Troyer SREH breached by the Starling. Not having seen one before I'm not sure of the 'normal' size. We have many White-wing doves and Cardinals, and I'm guessing by images on the Internet that starlings are not as large as the doves, but larger than Cardinals. It looked bigger than the PMs and I still can't believe how quick it came out of that entrance! The good news is I haven't seen "it" since but will keep watching. I have not read about the Lewis modification, so will follow up on that.
10-4 on the 22. Santa brought a nice one for Christmas (Benjamin Marauder .22 with scope). Not sure if Santa brought for me or himself?? LOL. Only had a chance to practice three times due to *WEATHER* which we are standing by for one more wintry blast scheduled to arrive in about 2 hours. UGH.
Two pics are attached, one is what I "think" y'all are referring to re raised porches. I read an article by Mike Sculley (I think it was) in San Antonio who was doing extensive testing of the raised porches with inconclusive results. Another post re modifying the 'slick' raised entrance to help keep the martins stable, thus defeating the Starling-proof properties. So then I got confused. I'm willing to give anything a try if y'all have suggestions.
The pic with the red arrow points to the Troyer SREH breached by the Starling. Not having seen one before I'm not sure of the 'normal' size. We have many White-wing doves and Cardinals, and I'm guessing by images on the Internet that starlings are not as large as the doves, but larger than Cardinals. It looked bigger than the PMs and I still can't believe how quick it came out of that entrance! The good news is I haven't seen "it" since but will keep watching. I have not read about the Lewis modification, so will follow up on that.
10-4 on the 22. Santa brought a nice one for Christmas (Benjamin Marauder .22 with scope). Not sure if Santa brought for me or himself?? LOL. Only had a chance to practice three times due to *WEATHER* which we are standing by for one more wintry blast scheduled to arrive in about 2 hours. UGH.
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2012 - 4 pair
2013 - 11 pair
2014 - 12 pair
2015 - 14 pair
2016 - Arrival Feb 29/17 pair
2017 - Full house first time-24 gourds all occupied
2012 - 4 pair
2013 - 11 pair
2014 - 12 pair
2015 - 14 pair
2016 - Arrival Feb 29/17 pair
2017 - Full house first time-24 gourds all occupied
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Courtney-NC
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- Martin Colony History: 2009-2015-Helped to manage Raleigh site, 36 cavities
2016- 33 pairs at Raleigh site, 1 pair at home site.
2017- 34 pairs at Raleigh site, 3 pairs + extra SYs at home site
2018- 33 pairs at Raleigh site, 5 pairs + extra SYs at home site
2019 - 32 pairs at Raleigh site, 7 pairs at home site, 2 pairs at new Holly Springs park site
I have seen several folks complain of starlings breaching the entrance your gourds have, which is Conley II.
Take a look at this thread, which describes and shows the Lewis Modification. It may solve your problem.
http://www.purplemartin.org/forum/viewt ... dification
Take a look at this thread, which describes and shows the Lewis Modification. It may solve your problem.
http://www.purplemartin.org/forum/viewt ... dification
-Courtney
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http://www.ncpurplemartin.org
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Henry Limpet
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- Location: IN./Howe, via the s/w side of Chicago
- Martin Colony History: Trendsetter-8. Set up in 2014 at my summer cottage, a beautiful natural inland lake in N.E. Indiana's Amish Country. T-8 is on cleared land behind my pole barn and adjacent to a farmer's field
2015: Had several flyovers in early June with 1 dedicated SYM visitor who visited each day for well over a month. He brought by a few PM "parades", with 8-12 PM's who would visit all at once, but soon leave. (Added 2 gourds to bottom of the T-8). We discovered a large (Amish) colony apx. 3/4 mile South of our T-8. We think this will eventually be our "feeder" colony.
2016: Put up a Trio G'Pa lakeside. Overall, not as much interest as 2015, likely because of our vacation to Gulf Shores, AL. in early June.
2017: Finally switched over to wheat straw. Success!! One nesting pair. Fledged 4!
2018: Zilch.
2019: Slow start, nothing observed by mid June. Wet, cold Spring a factor??
2020: Barely any sightings.
2021: Several observed high in the sky, eating. No interest so far!
I saw a European Starling (ES) yesterday afternoon. It was in the clutches of a Coopers Hawk. I think they were heading to lunch. The Coopers Hawk was driving. 
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Mark Peters
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- Martin Colony History: I only have one 16 compartment house. I only have a small backyard so I have to be happy with what I got.
No problems having several pairs for the past 5 years. Never quite have a full house.
The starlings are plentiful here in Houston. Wish they would just go away.
Mark
