Boric acid instead of Sevin

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Jack Gulvin
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Last spring I was blowing in a lot of cellulose insulation, thereby breathing a lot of boric acid. So I looked it up on the internet and was surprised to find nothing about adverse health effects, for humans anyway. Then this summer at one of my martin talks I was asked if boric acid would be better for controlling nest parasites than Sevin. I did not know. Who does?
Emil Pampell-Tx
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Sevin is extremely effective, why try Boric Acid?

I think that it may create conditions that are not healthy to baby birds. Here is something from the internet:

"Boric acid solutions used as an eye wash or on abraded skin are known to be toxic, particularly to infants"
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Louise Chambers
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Good question, Jack - it does have toxicity, or would not kill pests. It's sold for cockroach control in a dust form, which is puffed into cracks and crevices - both to repel and kill them. But it's slow acting, takes days to kill roaches, so might not be as effective for dealing with nest mite infestations.

This link has more info, and it is confusing - they say it's non-toxic to birds, but should not be used around children, that it's toxic to dogs, etc. http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoser ... _borax.php
Jack Gulvin
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The link was interesting but I'm with Emil on this and will stay with Sevin (in very tiny amounts) although I worry that I may be killing the jewel wasps that are supposed to parasitise the blowfly larvae.
Ed Svetich-WI
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Jack,

Several years ago I corresponded with an entomologist who specialized in blowflies. To make a long story short, he suggested not destroying the nest contents after a nest replacement so as not to destroy the parasitised larvae. I had been placing the old nest material in my compost. Now I use it as mulch around my bushes to allow the wasps to complete their development. Some maggots only produce more blowflies but some also produce more species specific parasitic wasps. Even with the use of Sevin, not all blowfly larvae are killed, so some do survive.
Jack Gulvin
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Good idea, Ed. I'll use the discarded nests to mulch nearby small trees. A blowfly specialist would be very interesting.
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