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Phil Crutchfield
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:10 am
Location: WV/Berkeley Springs

Hello to all: Last year I put a house up and had a couple of what I thought were purple martins. Over the winter I really dove into the society to see what I needed to know. Well, the birds I thought were martins are tree swallows. I built a new T-14 martin house, and had all the holes blocked off until April 1. Praying martins would show up. Well the tree swallows are back and I am looking for someone with the same type of delima to to tell me what to do.
Berndog
Posts: 184
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:33 am
Location: OH/Bethel

I had the same dilema several years ago,i simply built several bluebird houses which the swallows quickly accepted ! they usem every yr now.this should solve your problem,good luck
Emil Pampell-Tx
Posts: 6743
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26 pm
Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

This is from the internet:

The Solution: Follow Dr. Daniel Drew's protocol for avoiding interference.
Over the years Purple Martin enthusiasts have developed some effective techniques for reducing interspecific competition. The Purple Martin Conservation Association web site is one excellent resource, but the best reference for persons concerned by bluebird and swallow competition with martins is Daniel Drew's very detailed page on
the subject. Dr. Drew states that it is essential that bluebirds and Tree Swallows be prevented from settling in new or unestablished martin houses. If these non-target species appear to be starting to nest, all martin compartments should be closed at once or the houses completely removed temporarily. A single nest box built to the smaller birds' specifications should then be erected no more than 25' to 35' away from
the martin site (see below), with its entrance facing the martin houses. The pair of bluebirds or swallows should be allowed to occupy this box, but only when there is evidence they have truly committed to it (nest building and egg laying) should the martin houses be reopened. Once committed to the single box the bluebirds or swallows will usually prevent others of their own kind from moving into in the nearby
martin compartments, which they consider within their own territorial space.
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
pmlover
Posts: 805
Joined: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:30 pm
Location: OH/New Concord

Yes I did the same thing The tree swallows love bb houses put them in 25 yard increments away from the t-14s and you will be okay. Just tap the t-14 pole if they fly on top of it. They are a wonder bird. I love them almost as much as the martins.
dick
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
KathyF
Posts: 3522
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

Phil, read this - I had the same problem my first year and I followed these directions to a "t" and it worked!!!
http://www.drugfreeworkplace.com/~Dan/ ... GENCY.html
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com
Emil Pampell-Tx
Posts: 6743
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26 pm
Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

KathyF wrote:Phil, read this - I had the same problem my first year and I followed these directions to a "t" and it worked!!!
http://www.drugfreeworkplace.com/~Dan/ ... GENCY.html
Kathy, I think something is wrong with your post, its not a DRUG problem
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
KathyF
Posts: 3522
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

LOL - well, it *could* be, Emil! Let me try this again... :lol:

http://www.drugfreeworkplace.com/~Dan/T ... GENCY.html

I must have messed it up with the URL tags... :roll:
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com
DakotaLady
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Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:06 pm
Location: Bismarck, ND

This all happened by accident. I have a lot of Troyer gourds and purchased the traps that work with the Troyer gourd tunnels. I had a pair of tree swallows that wanted to nest in my gourds and there was nothing I could do to stop them. I also had a pair of sparrows that wanted to nest. This was all taking place prior to my martins arriving...I put a bunch of gourd traps and accidentally caught the tree swallow female. After I let her go she no longer wanted my gourds and was much happier in one of my blue bird boxes.

Perhaps you should try catching one of them in a trap and then letting them go? It worked for me.
~Tangula~

2013 - 16 pair, 79 eggs, 71 fledged
2012 - 4 pair, 18 eggs, 18 fledged
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