house sparrow name

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pmlover
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Does anyone know what the actual name of the house sparrow?
thanks Dick
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
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2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
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Cheryl S
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According to my Stokes Field Guide to Birds, the scientific name for the house sparrow is Passer domesticus.
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pmlover
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ty Cheryl
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
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pmlover
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the problem is now im getting a lot of sparrows that look like the hs ie lark sparrow song sparrow tree sparrow etc
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
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Louise Chambers
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It's a good idea to work on being able to identify House Sparrows, male, female, or juvenile, with confidence, to avoid bad mistakes.

This link is helpful: http://www.sialis.org/otherbrownbirds.htm

and this one http://bfec.kenyon.edu/images/Sparrows.pdf

You can also make your own ID chart using images from google image search, for the native sparrows you see most often. Winter plumage can make it harder to ID some native sparrows, but male and female House Sparrows will not change, so focus on those. And remember that no native sparrows are cavity nesters; they will not show an interest in nestboxes or gourds.

Feeders will attract both native and non-native sparrows, so if you use a bait trap, you can try different baits (large chunks of white bread often work well) and when it's nesting season again, white sparrows and nest material make good trap baits too.
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pmlover
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Thank you so much Louise : :)
Dick
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
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4th Gen Martin Fan
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Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.

If in doubt about visual identification of a male English House Sparrow, then just listen for the nerve racking, chalkboard sound,
Cheep! Cheep! Cheep!

I am probably going to have night terrors tonight!
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
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dhjohnson
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Martin Colony History: 5th year hostess. Currently 58 confirmed breeding pair. 218 Fledged, 35 older nestlings, 2 new nests with 8 nestlings. 100% occupancy

Louise,
Those were very good pictures. I have already identified a few more birds that frequent our home area but didn't realize what they were...only that were pretty and amusing.
Thank you,
Debbie
Debbie Johnson
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2012 New Site 6 pair, 21 Fledged
2013 24 pair, 102 eggs, 94 hatched, 89 Fledged. What a great year!
2014 37 pair, 211 eggs, 193 Hatched, 178 Fledged, 1 nest of 5 young left! Late start but picked up speed quickly!
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Don Strickland
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I once shot a Dickcissel because I thought it was a house sparrow, and last year I had a Lark Sparrow build two partial nests in one of my Martin Houses. It finally gave up the job but could have been shot because of mistaken identity. I now try to be absolutely positive of ID before I pull the trigger.
Don
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EGunterTX
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Location: Texas/New Braunfels/Canyon Lake

House sparrow name--
Funny, true, sad story. I loaned a neighbor my sparrow trap. He caught 2-3 HOSPs. His wife named them & made him let them loose----
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pmlover
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eg that's what my wife tries to make me do but theres no way in heck I will ever do that lol
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
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JL Murray

Don Strickland wrote:I once shot a Dickcissel because I thought it was a house sparrow, and last year I had a Lark Sparrow build two partial nests in one of my Martin Houses. It finally gave up the job but could have been shot because of mistaken identity. I now try to be absolutely positive of ID before I pull the trigger.
Don
DON, That makes two Dickcissel's down then because i did the same exact thing a several years ago, When i picked it up and saw the yellow on its chest i felt terrible, That is one mistake that will not happen twice on my part.
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DornCounty
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Trio-Jedi

pmlover wrote:the problem is now im getting a lot of sparrows that look like the hs ie lark sparrow song sparrow tree sparrow etc

Don't worry and just be sure of ID.. after a couple years of watching and learning you will be able to tell them apart real easy. Habits such as how they move and where they land is helpful too.
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DornCounty
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Trio-Jedi

4th Gen Martin Fan wrote:If in doubt about visual identification of a male English House Sparrow, then just listen for the nerve racking, chalkboard sound,
Cheep! Cheep! Cheep!

I am probably going to have night terrors tonight!
No kidding. It's starting already in Kansas.. we've had about 2 months of peace now the males are starting up again and setting up territories.
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tonyg
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Martin Colony History: 22 year landlord, 14 at current residence..offering 9 racks and a homemade T-8 for 166 total cavities. 160 Pair in 2018 Racks consist of a Deluxe 12, AAA 16, Starburst 16, 2 K-18 Series, Super 24, 2 Gemini, Multi-purpose/two trio’s/4gourds and a T-8..Great hobby to be involved in..

Real English house sparrow name is: Trash domesticus ..
22 year landlord..9 Rack Systems for 2018 and my home built T-8 for a total of 166 cavities..160 pair in 2018 ..SUPER COLONY!!! Love You Bev... Fan of those St. Louis Cardinals!!!!!
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Nikkidodi - SATX
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Location: TX/San Antonio

this is a real problem for me. Or.. well... it could have been, but I decided a few years back not to make war on the English (or common house) sparrow because my eye sight is simply not good enough at 30 yards to distinguish the many types of sparrows we have in the area.

I just lower my houses every day and clean out the nests not made of mud and sticks. The sparrows eventually give up and move on to other less harrassing areas.
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