Hello
can anyone recommend a CD player that they are using that comes on with a timer for the use of playing the Dawn song i have an Emerson but it wont work on a timer ...i have read the article about the pc really don't wont to go that route thanks for any info
Recommendations for cd player for Dawn song
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Louise Chambers
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The PMCA store has a player, the songbird magnet. You can buy an inexpensive alarm clock with a CD player - just protect it from the elements since it will need to be outside - wrap in plastic.
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Connie
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Downsized to 17 gourds due to back surgeries. Had 14 families in 2017 but did not do nest checks due to health. Feeling better in 2018 and hoping for a good year.
JoJo, I have the box Louise is talking about and it works great. Heavy duty.
Connie
Hi,
Newbie here so please be easy on me
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as for the cd player I would suggest to try to use player that you got already, and it may work. In preparation for my "Dawnsong" arrival I have successfully tried to use my boombox (cheap Chinese brand) with cd in the player and the "play" button depressed and locked in place with an aid of aluminum tape. I'm pretty sure the "ducktape" would work also.. The power cord from the boombox is connected to power via ordinary light/small appliance timer. I believe the Dawnsong is a single track CD.. so it should work.
Newbie here so please be easy on me
..as for the cd player I would suggest to try to use player that you got already, and it may work. In preparation for my "Dawnsong" arrival I have successfully tried to use my boombox (cheap Chinese brand) with cd in the player and the "play" button depressed and locked in place with an aid of aluminum tape. I'm pretty sure the "ducktape" would work also.. The power cord from the boombox is connected to power via ordinary light/small appliance timer. I believe the Dawnsong is a single track CD.. so it should work.
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DebA
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- Martin Colony History: Start 2009 with one pair. Upgraded from S&K houses to two Trendsetter 12's with gourds beneath in 2013. I have experienced job, pet, and parental losses since '13. The Purple Martins lift my spirits and remind me how life continues forward by flying their little selves from Brazil back to my yard. As one forum person once told me, chin up DebA, look at the martins. Danger all around but yet they soar in the sky without a care in the world.
Hello "Newbie"!
I like how you think. I use a cheapie player but mine has a repeat mode button. But if it didn't I am all for the use of duct tape. Plug in timers plugged in in my barn and an extension cord completes my set up.
Deb
I like how you think. I use a cheapie player but mine has a repeat mode button. But if it didn't I am all for the use of duct tape. Plug in timers plugged in in my barn and an extension cord completes my set up.
Deb
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Pratt County, Kansas
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2015 27 PAIR
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2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
Pratt County, Kansas
2016 34 PAIR
2015 27 PAIR
2014 23 PAIR
2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
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Connie
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Downsized to 17 gourds due to back surgeries. Had 14 families in 2017 but did not do nest checks due to health. Feeling better in 2018 and hoping for a good year.
Great way of thinking....and you know duct tape....what won't it work on? 
Welcome newbie!
Where are you in GA? Lived in Marietta and Jonesboro for a while in the 80's.
Welcome newbie!
Where are you in GA? Lived in Marietta and Jonesboro for a while in the 80's.
Connie
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dsonyay
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- Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.
2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)
2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.
2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged
2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(
2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.
2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.
I have a cheap portable cd stereo with speakers that detach. I stick them out the window about 15 yds from the pole and it works great. A good feature to look for is a repeat setting.. that way it will play all day. I put my daytime chatter on about 7am and leave it playing all day.
Some people stick speakers on the rack, and I'm sure it is a better idea, but my setup works great. They actually will circle over my speakers sometimes- especially the dawn song CD. Seems to mesmerise them.
Some people stick speakers on the rack, and I'm sure it is a better idea, but my setup works great. They actually will circle over my speakers sometimes- especially the dawn song CD. Seems to mesmerise them.
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bwenger
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In 2018, we fledged 629 martins at all of the sites.
Welcome to the Forum,
For years I used a CD player. Would get up at 4:30am or so and turn it on. Used the repeat button for continuous play. Last year, I used a songbird magnet in the morning, and during the weekdays when I was not at our cottage.
It worked great. It has a light sensor, so it would come on before sunrise by itself and would play all day long. It would go off at dark, so owls would not get interested in my colony.
This really worked out well. Hopefully I get my pair of martins back this year and add to my colony. At some point, I hope to be able to stop using these artificial attraction techniques and have my own martins singing the dawnsong and daytime chatter over my colony.
Good luck this year attracting martins. They are a joy to have around!
Bill
For years I used a CD player. Would get up at 4:30am or so and turn it on. Used the repeat button for continuous play. Last year, I used a songbird magnet in the morning, and during the weekdays when I was not at our cottage.
It worked great. It has a light sensor, so it would come on before sunrise by itself and would play all day long. It would go off at dark, so owls would not get interested in my colony.
This really worked out well. Hopefully I get my pair of martins back this year and add to my colony. At some point, I hope to be able to stop using these artificial attraction techniques and have my own martins singing the dawnsong and daytime chatter over my colony.
Good luck this year attracting martins. They are a joy to have around!
Bill
I do have the song magnet all ready but i have had 2 of these go bad on me they always send me anther but i just want something reliable i will try the duct tape also i wanted to get a power horn and really blare it out this year to attract them thanks again im on a mission
I used an outdoor speaker I got from Brookstone to wirelessly transmit the sound from inside the house to outside via a basic headphone jack. The source inside can be anything from a CD player to an iPod to a computer. I made mp3s of all my Martin songs, put it into itunes and used iTunes to play it automatically just like an alarm. So I literally had to set it up once and do nothing for the rest of the season. I am a bit of tech geek, but set up is a breeze. Nothing in this world is worth getting me up everyday at 4:30am to play with birds. I prefer the evening beer while watching them fly around, but 4:30am, I don't think so. Good luck!
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Sam Harris
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I used an old RCA dual alarm cd clock radio. I had to open it up to modify it. I disconected the radio tuner from the main board and spliced the speaker wires to run my small power horn.
I set the first alarm for cd then set the second alarm 2 hours lator to the radio tuner. Since it is disconected the cd just stops after the second alarm. Works great.
I set the first alarm for cd then set the second alarm 2 hours lator to the radio tuner. Since it is disconected the cd just stops after the second alarm. Works great.
Sam
Choctaw, OK
2010...1 pair/5 eggs/5 fledged
2011...2pair/9 eggs/7 fledged
2012...5 pair/28 eggs/25 fledged
2013...12 pair/62 eggs/51 fledged
2014...15 pair/85 eggs/55 fledged
Choctaw, OK
2010...1 pair/5 eggs/5 fledged
2011...2pair/9 eggs/7 fledged
2012...5 pair/28 eggs/25 fledged
2013...12 pair/62 eggs/51 fledged
2014...15 pair/85 eggs/55 fledged
You done what???? Just kidding. That would be great if i just knew what to do.Flopass wrote:I used an outdoor speaker I got from Brookstone to wirelessly transmit the sound from inside the house to outside via a basic headphone jack. The source inside can be anything from a CD player to an iPod to a computer. I made mp3s of all my Martin songs, put it into itunes and used iTunes to play it automatically just like an alarm. So I literally had to set it up once and do nothing for the rest of the season. I am a bit of tech geek, but set up is a breeze. Nothing in this world is worth getting me up everyday at 4:30am to play with birds. I prefer the evening beer while watching them fly around, but 4:30am, I don't think so. Good luck!
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DebA
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- Martin Colony History: Start 2009 with one pair. Upgraded from S&K houses to two Trendsetter 12's with gourds beneath in 2013. I have experienced job, pet, and parental losses since '13. The Purple Martins lift my spirits and remind me how life continues forward by flying their little selves from Brazil back to my yard. As one forum person once told me, chin up DebA, look at the martins. Danger all around but yet they soar in the sky without a care in the world.
Yeah, I can use hand tools and power tools all by myself to put together my house systems...but that techy stuff...I think that's why I had kids.
Deb
Deb
There's at least one way to do it without a timer.
You can rip the Dawn Song CD to an MP3, then edit the MP3 with a free software called Audacity to add "X" hours of silence to the start of the recording. Then burn the MP3 with the added hours of silence to a CD. The only catch is your CD player has to be capable of also playing MP3s and not just CDA-format music files (some will, some won't, your's might).
With the settings I'm using, silence is only about 38 MB per hour. My ripped Dawn Song MP3 is 176 MB. I added six hours of silence to it and it still is only 407 MB. So I can put out my CD player at 10 pm and turn it on and leave it but it only plays silence (not white noise or static) until 4 a.m. Then it plays the Dawn Song, 73 minutes long.
I could have added as much as 12 hours of silence and still fit it on a 650 MB CD. Or I could have recorded the Dawn Song twice in succession (146 minutes total), preceded by as much as seven hours of silence. And it still would fit on a 650 MB CD.
Lots of CD burning softwares will convert the MP3s you've created to CDAs and record them to a CD-Rom but I can't speak to how much silence you could add to it and still have it fit on a CD because I haven't tried it. But if your CD player won't play MP3s, that is another option.
You can rip the Dawn Song CD to an MP3, then edit the MP3 with a free software called Audacity to add "X" hours of silence to the start of the recording. Then burn the MP3 with the added hours of silence to a CD. The only catch is your CD player has to be capable of also playing MP3s and not just CDA-format music files (some will, some won't, your's might).
With the settings I'm using, silence is only about 38 MB per hour. My ripped Dawn Song MP3 is 176 MB. I added six hours of silence to it and it still is only 407 MB. So I can put out my CD player at 10 pm and turn it on and leave it but it only plays silence (not white noise or static) until 4 a.m. Then it plays the Dawn Song, 73 minutes long.
I could have added as much as 12 hours of silence and still fit it on a 650 MB CD. Or I could have recorded the Dawn Song twice in succession (146 minutes total), preceded by as much as seven hours of silence. And it still would fit on a 650 MB CD.
Lots of CD burning softwares will convert the MP3s you've created to CDAs and record them to a CD-Rom but I can't speak to how much silence you could add to it and still have it fit on a CD because I haven't tried it. But if your CD player won't play MP3s, that is another option.