American Kestrel

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rtanner77
Posts: 51
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 10:47 am
Location: Georgia/Milledgeville
Martin Colony History: We've hosted purple martins since around 2002 and currently have 5 gourd racks with 22 Excluder gourds, 9 Super gourds, 18 Troyer gourds, 4 Bo gourds, 6 natural gourds, and 3 homemade boxes for martins to use.

Last weekend for the first time I saw an American kestrel hanging out on the power lines on our property. I'm thinking of putting up a kestrel nest box, but the area where I saw it has a good number of starlings and I don't want them taking over the nest box. If the kestrel claims it first, could he defend it against a possible starling takeover? Starlings are pretty aggressive and persistent. From what I've read, kestrels are not major predators of purple martins, so I'm not too worried about my martin colony. Anyone with any experience here?
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Louise Chambers
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Kestrels could use some help against starlings - can you shoot or trap the starlings? We've had to help our woodpeckers, which are bigger than starlings, protect their nestbox too. Starlings jump in and attack the woodpeckers, have seen that on nestcam.
Siberman
Posts: 262
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:03 pm
Location: Titus County , TX

Location / height of kestrel box ?

Don't know if I'll use it here though . I had one hang around years ago . I never saw him bother the martins but they certainly didn't care for his presence.
2010: 5 pair - raptor attack .
2011 : nada .
2012 : 1 pair - 5 eggs / 5 fledged .
2013: zero
2014: Lots of visitors
2015 : several visitors . Seriously considering purchasing a drone to scare off raptors .
JL Murray

Audubons website says about 20 foot tall other sites say between 16 and 30 foot.
KathyF
Posts: 3522
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

My neighbor had a pair move into a martin house he had built and mounted up about 14-15' high...
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
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rtanner77
Posts: 51
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 10:47 am
Location: Georgia/Milledgeville
Martin Colony History: We've hosted purple martins since around 2002 and currently have 5 gourd racks with 22 Excluder gourds, 9 Super gourds, 18 Troyer gourds, 4 Bo gourds, 6 natural gourds, and 3 homemade boxes for martins to use.

I have a screech owl nest box I made years ago, but to my knowledge never had any owls nest in. I think I might move it out of the woods and put it near where I saw the kestrel. It's in the middle of about 30 acres of open pasture. There are lots of bluebirds, eastern meadowlarks, and a few starlings around. I wouldn't mind having the kestrels around because apparently they sometimes prey on starlings and other birds. I wish there was a way to get them to only go after starlings! I try to trap the starlings during the nesting season, but the ones we have are very skittish and very much wild. As we all know, it's an ongoing battle.
"It seems to me that the natural world is the greatest source of excitement; the greatest source of visual beauty; the greatest source of intellectual interest. It is the greatest source of so much in life that makes life worth living." -Sir David Attenborough
barry resvick
Posts: 185
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:07 pm
Location: Alberta/Didsbury
Martin Colony History: 2010 we had just one sy male all summer
2011 we had the same male come back but eventually brought home a female and had five eggs but were infertile
2012 we had our first two chicks but lost them
2013 we fledged six and had two pair
2014 we fledged 13 from four pairs
2015 we fledged 24 from 6 pairs

Iv heard that putting sawdust in the woodpecker nest boxes will keep the starlings out.The woodpeckers are used to it and use it for there nests.The starlings try in vein to remove it and finally move on.It may work for the kestrel box as well
2010______2 visitors
2011______1asy male 3 visitors
2012______1 pair,possibly2(5 infertile eggs)
2013______2 pair,5infertile eggs,4hatched,0 fledged
2014______3 pair,Fledged 13
Louise Chambers
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Shavings work better than sawdust, which can get wet and packed down. We often do that with our woodpecker box.

There are plans for a swing-down, manageable kestrel box by Kestrel Karetakers. https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca ... bIId2FnlFA

sorry about the goofy link, but it works
D'Nese
Posts: 450
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:09 pm
Location: Unionville, TN

Louise,
Thanks for the information. We have them here in my neck of the woods and they are beautiful creatures. We have a starling problem here and the house on the pole is desireable as if I mount it to a tree it would be quite difficult to monitor and clean out. Looks like this will go on the "honey do" list for spring. :lol:
D'Nese in Tennessee


2009-new house up, many visitors no one stayed
2010-3 pairs, 14 eggs, 9 babies 9 fledged
2011 20 pairs, 106 eggs, 79 fledged
2012 37 pair, 120 fledged
2013 37 pair, 173 fledged
rtanner77
Posts: 51
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 10:47 am
Location: Georgia/Milledgeville
Martin Colony History: We've hosted purple martins since around 2002 and currently have 5 gourd racks with 22 Excluder gourds, 9 Super gourds, 18 Troyer gourds, 4 Bo gourds, 6 natural gourds, and 3 homemade boxes for martins to use.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and Louise for the link; it looks very interesting. I've decided to go ahead and put up my box for the kestrels, but be extra diligent in monitoring for starling takeovers.
"It seems to me that the natural world is the greatest source of excitement; the greatest source of visual beauty; the greatest source of intellectual interest. It is the greatest source of so much in life that makes life worth living." -Sir David Attenborough
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