I have a nest where all 8 eggs have hatched. As of today they are 5 days old. Anyone had a nest where all 8 have fledged successfully? Wondering if I should move 1 or 2.
Jack
All 8 Hatched
Hi Jack,
That is a very rare event, and the young all look healthy! It certainly would be interesting to see if the parents could pull it off! Of course, if you have others nests with 3 or 4 young at the same age, you could take some pressure off the octagon parents by transferring a couple of babies. I will just leave you to call the shot on this one!
Gary
That is a very rare event, and the young all look healthy! It certainly would be interesting to see if the parents could pull it off! Of course, if you have others nests with 3 or 4 young at the same age, you could take some pressure off the octagon parents by transferring a couple of babies. I will just leave you to call the shot on this one!
Gary
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Dan Clodfelter
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Yes , last year I had a nest with 9 eggs hatch and fledge . This has been the most I had ever seen or heard of and as of right now my best number is 7 for this year .
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tonyg
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Pretty amazing stuff... I have 5 nest of 7 baby's..That's the most I have ever had in one nest..
22 year landlord..9 Rack Systems for 2018 and my home built T-8 for a total of 166 cavities..160 pair in 2018 ..SUPER COLONY!!! Love You Bev... Fan of those St. Louis Cardinals!!!!!
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Louise Chambers
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Nests of 8 are very rare. I know of one that fledged all eight, the landlord kept good notes and took photos, which we were able to share in the Update. If food supplies are good, that will help, and a pair of experienced ASY parents will increase odds of success too. You could supply some crickets or mealworms regularly, which would help the parents out a lot. They look good so far!
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~Ray~Gingerich
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I found an 8 egg nest in a Bo-11 during yesterdays nest check, it contained 7 eggs on the previous weekly check.
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
We also found a nest with 8 eggs today, hope they all grow up to fledge too.
Hope all of our OctoNests make it.
Hope all of our OctoNests make it.
Bob n Jo,
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ljd-kc
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Thanks for all the responses! I would like to leave them if I could. The parents, both ASY seem to be in and out a lot trying to keep up. But the weather hasn't been much help this year, been kind of dry, especially lately.
Ed, My ASY pair picked a Troyer Horizontal to lay their 8 eggs in. May be tight quarters if they all stay together!
Thanks,
Jack
Ed, My ASY pair picked a Troyer Horizontal to lay their 8 eggs in. May be tight quarters if they all stay together!
Thanks,
Jack
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How are the octanestlings doing today?
Sincerely,
Laverne
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Laverne,
They are approximately 17 days old today, and they seem to be doing fine. It has been pretty dry here but our colony is very close to the Platte River, and I would think this would help some. I have been supplying a few crickets each morning and evening inside the cavity and they are gone by the next feeding time.
Dana and Ethan and Devin from the Missouri River Bird Observatory came out on 6/8 for the first round of banding and we got a couple of pictures. Ethan said they were all very close to the same weight which I believe is good. They are supposed to email us that data along with the rest of the birds that were banded. Here are some pictures that were taken while they were here.
They are approximately 17 days old today, and they seem to be doing fine. It has been pretty dry here but our colony is very close to the Platte River, and I would think this would help some. I have been supplying a few crickets each morning and evening inside the cavity and they are gone by the next feeding time.
Dana and Ethan and Devin from the Missouri River Bird Observatory came out on 6/8 for the first round of banding and we got a couple of pictures. Ethan said they were all very close to the same weight which I believe is good. They are supposed to email us that data along with the rest of the birds that were banded. Here are some pictures that were taken while they were here.
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- In the bucket after being banded waiting to be put back in their cavity.
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- Devin, their Intern, holding 2, Dana holding 3, Ethan holding 1, and Jeremy, my son, holding 2.
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I have a set of 8 eggs first time ever. Way up here in the Northeast.
Rehoboth MA. Crescent Super gourds did the trick. The food supply must be way up many birds have 7 eggs also. ----Ray
Rehoboth MA. Crescent Super gourds did the trick. The food supply must be way up many birds have 7 eggs also. ----Ray
We have a nest of 8 eggs in a t-14 as well.
2007 2 pair 8 fledged
2008 4 pair 18 fledged
2009 21 pair 87 fledged
2010 44 pair 174 fledged
2011 68 pair 244 fledged
2012 82 pair 364 fledged
2013 82 pair 359 fledged
2014 86 pair 415 fledged
2015 101 pair 427 fledged
2008 4 pair 18 fledged
2009 21 pair 87 fledged
2010 44 pair 174 fledged
2011 68 pair 244 fledged
2012 82 pair 364 fledged
2013 82 pair 359 fledged
2014 86 pair 415 fledged
2015 101 pair 427 fledged
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tonyg
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Great news Jack! Three of my gourds with 7 all hatched and are doing fine also. Been dry here also, but all of my colony's babies seem to be doing fine. Good luck and keep us posted at fledging time.. 
22 year landlord..9 Rack Systems for 2018 and my home built T-8 for a total of 166 cavities..160 pair in 2018 ..SUPER COLONY!!! Love You Bev... Fan of those St. Louis Cardinals!!!!!
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They look awesome, Jack. I believe they're all gonna make it! Thank you for sharing them with us... and they're banded, too.
Great photos!
Great photos!
Sincerely,
Laverne
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We banded a nest of 8 today at the NCPMS site in Raleigh. All the young from that nest looked good. It was in a crescent supergourd. We also had a few 7-young nests as well. One of the 7-young nests was in a Lonestar Goliad house.
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I wish you the best of luck. Basically, I am not thrilled with such a large clutch, what often happens is that the fledglings are not strong enough to fly. I would much rather see 5 or 6 strong healthy babies that can fly on their first attempt. But so much depends upon the weather. If the weather stays dry and hot, you should quickly consider helping them out by providing addition food for them (supplemental feeding). Such a large group does not stand much of a chance if the bugs are not abundant. If the bugs are abundant, you may be able to pull it off. I think that the type of housing does not matter much, but larger cavities and better insulated cavities would definitely be a plus in this situation
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I have attached a picture taken from the tunnel of their cavity on 6/21 at 6:45 am, they were 28 days old in this picture. That evening at 5:30 pm all had fledged except one, I checked the band number , it was # C073. This little guy was not the smallest at banding time but next to the smallest, coming in at a weight of 56.7 at 17 days old. Today being 6/23 the little guy is now approximately 30 days old and as of this evening at 5:10 pm he still had not yet fledged. Below are the weights when they were banded at approximately 17 days of age. Hoping he stays as long as it takes to be successful on his first flight, better in the nest than on the ground. Tomorrow will be his or her day I hope.
61.7 - C071
63.2 - C072
56.7 - C073
57.4 - C074
57.9 - C075
59.9 - C076
56.4 - C077
58.5 - C078
Jack
61.7 - C071
63.2 - C072
56.7 - C073
57.4 - C074
57.9 - C075
59.9 - C076
56.4 - C077
58.5 - C078
Jack
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Jack,
Let us know how he does.
I had a pair that laid 9 eggs. 8 hatched, but 3 babies died, and I was helping the parents feed them by putting crickets in the compartment.
It was my first and only pair this year. 5 fledged successfully. Very exciting.
Yvonne
Let us know how he does.
I had a pair that laid 9 eggs. 8 hatched, but 3 babies died, and I was helping the parents feed them by putting crickets in the compartment.
It was my first and only pair this year. 5 fledged successfully. Very exciting.
Yvonne
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2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pair fledged 8
2014 4 pair fledged 15
2015 7 pair fledged 25
2016 10 pair fledged 31
2017 17 pair fledged 69
2018 18 pair fledged 69
2019 21 pair fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
2020 17 pair fledged 53
2021 16 pair fledged 62 ( hard freeze in Feb for days. Lost 39 birds. My oldest and wisest)
2022 11 pair fledged 43
2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pair fledged 8
2014 4 pair fledged 15
2015 7 pair fledged 25
2016 10 pair fledged 31
2017 17 pair fledged 69
2018 18 pair fledged 69
2019 21 pair fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
2020 17 pair fledged 53
2021 16 pair fledged 62 ( hard freeze in Feb for days. Lost 39 birds. My oldest and wisest)
2022 11 pair fledged 43
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ljd-kc
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Hi Yvonne,
I see from your profile you have a trendsetter 12 w/4 gourds. Which did they choose to nest in? That is really neat that she layed 9 eggs. Late in the season this year I put up a Trendsetter 12 with a few gourds under it. My first house. Congratulations and I hope you fill up that Trendsetter next year!
Jack
I see from your profile you have a trendsetter 12 w/4 gourds. Which did they choose to nest in? That is really neat that she layed 9 eggs. Late in the season this year I put up a Trendsetter 12 with a few gourds under it. My first house. Congratulations and I hope you fill up that Trendsetter next year!
Jack
