Missing eggs?????????????????.............

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geneinmurphy
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Joined: Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:09 pm
Location: North Carolina/Murphy

A week ago I did a nest check and one of the Troyer horizontal gourds on my T14 had 6 eggs in it. Yesterday, when I did another nest check, there were NO eggs (or even broken eggs) in the gourd. This is very puzzling.....I never have problems with snakes.....what could have happened here????
cary-nw-fla
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Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:27 pm
Location: Holt, Florida

This is my first year to have PMs in residence. I didn't think I would have a snake problem either. I had one gourd that had an 8 egg clutch in it. (I had netting up, but unfortunately not enough). I made a nest check and like you, eggs were gone, no shells in the gourd or on the ground. When I opened the next gourd.. there it was a corn snake about 3 ft long. Needless to say, I added more netting to my poles and about 2 weeks later caught a rat snake before he got up the pole. Next year I plan to have an electric fence charger system in place. Lesson learned. I sure did hate to loose that 8 egg clutch, I understand they are not common.
2010/2011: 0 / 2012: 8 Pair / 2013: 22 Pair / 2014: 35 Pair / 2015: 39 Pair / 2016: 73 Pair / 2017: 94 Pair
Cary
katkola
Posts: 126
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 7:42 am
Location: Waynesboro, VA

Last year an English Sparrow destroyed the eggs in one of my gourds! Do you see male English Sparrow around your gourds. If so, please get rid of them!
2010- 1 pair, 5 eggs, 3 fledged (First Year)
2011- 8 pair, 5 nesting pair, 22 eggs, 11 fledges
Lost one female and her 4 eggs, 5 eggs
destroyed by HS!
2012- 12 pair (10 nesting pair), 48 Fledglings!
2013 - 17 pair - 80 Fledglings!!
Emil Pampell-Tx
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Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

That sounds like a snake to me. Do you have snake guards? What kind of pole guards do you have?
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
TammyBears
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:00 pm
Location: Bridgecreek, Oklahoma (SW of OKC)

I too have an SY pair that had 6 eggs in my Trio castle with enlarged compartments. Now I have only 3 eggs. My nest checks are about every 3 days. I do have guards and snake netting. There are no sparrows, and if there was a snake, it would have been caught and/or surely would have taken all of them anyway. There are no broken shells in nest or on ground. I have had many bachelor subbies around lately. One even took over a gourd that just recently fledged 5 beautiful babies. As soon as parents and fledglings were gone, he moved right in. But where are the eggs?
Tammy
RIP my precious Josie, 7/5/2000-11/6/2014
2015: 22 pair plus lots of bachelors
2014: 25 pair and some bachelor subbies
2013: 17 pair
2012: 7 pair (first year)
Emil Pampell-Tx
Posts: 6743
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26 pm
Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

Tammy, in your case, it most likely was a subbie male that destroyed some eggs, because a snake would not let 3 eggs stay in the nest.
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
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