Will someone please recommend some great pellets for controlling S&S? Lots of choices out there, just wondering what works best for others. Thanks in advance.
-Brett
pellet recommendation for Beeman R7 Elite - .177?
2010: two pair nested, 1 bird fledged.
2011: starlings/sparrows destroyed nests. I shut down the house early to save PM lives.
2012: new T-14 with SREH, & a Beeman R7. Four fledged this year.
2013: Destroyed many house sparrows, but fledged 21 PM's!
2011: starlings/sparrows destroyed nests. I shut down the house early to save PM lives.
2012: new T-14 with SREH, & a Beeman R7. Four fledged this year.
2013: Destroyed many house sparrows, but fledged 21 PM's!
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Don Strickland
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GOOD QUESTION!!!
I bought crosman Ultra Magnum domed 10.5 Grain to try in my Gamo, and the wind has blown every day since so I can't even try to sight in my rifle. Also have a box of crosman hollow points.
I figured the heavier pellets might have more knock down, if I can hit the target.
Don
I bought crosman Ultra Magnum domed 10.5 Grain to try in my Gamo, and the wind has blown every day since so I can't even try to sight in my rifle. Also have a box of crosman hollow points.
I figured the heavier pellets might have more knock down, if I can hit the target.
Don
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Emil Pampell-Tx
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Purchase a group of pellet samples, try about 10 to 20 different types, and see what fits your pellet rifle the best. There are other people that sell the pellet sample groups, the following is just some of them.
http://www.straightshooters.com/straigh ... -.177.html
http://www.pelletperfect.co.uk/index.ph ... ation_id=4
http://www.straightshooters.com/straigh ... -.177.html
http://www.pelletperfect.co.uk/index.ph ... ation_id=4
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dsonyay
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- Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.
2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)
2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.
2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged
2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(
2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.
2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.
An easy pellet to find is the Crosman Premier. They are very accurate in many rifles. You'll want to test them out. Try walmart, Academy, or Dick's.
The sample pack mentioned above is a very good way to try a few quality brands at once.
A superb pellet in nearly all rifles are the "Exact" line made by JSB. You'll need to buy these online.
In my Rifle- a Gamo 440, the Crosman Premier hollowpoints are one of the most accurate I've tried and since I can buy these anywhere, I just go with them.
The sample pack mentioned above is a very good way to try a few quality brands at once.
A superb pellet in nearly all rifles are the "Exact" line made by JSB. You'll need to buy these online.
In my Rifle- a Gamo 440, the Crosman Premier hollowpoints are one of the most accurate I've tried and since I can buy these anywhere, I just go with them.
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klcretired
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I have the Beeman S-1 w/ scope
I use the Predator Polymer Tip Hollow Head Hunting Pellets
you can get them at Cabelas , They are very accurate and spread out when they hit, they come in .177 or 22.
http://reviews.cabelas.com/8815/224838/ ... ort=rating[/size

I use the Predator Polymer Tip Hollow Head Hunting Pellets
you can get them at Cabelas , They are very accurate and spread out when they hit, they come in .177 or 22.
http://reviews.cabelas.com/8815/224838/ ... ort=rating[/size

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Wishing everyone a Great Martin Year
Happy Martining for 2022 to everyone,
K.C.
[email protected]
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Conrad Baker
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Best advice, as given by Mr. Emil, is to try several to see which is the most accurate in your particular gun. It doesn't matter too much what type of pellet you end up using. If you miss the Hosp with a hollow point but hit it with a flat head or domed pellet, that's what counts the most (the one you can hit it with). I have found that in my several rifles, the Beeman FTS (Field Target Special) is consistently more accurate.
Go to straightshooters and purchase the pellet sampler group.
Go to straightshooters and purchase the pellet sampler group.
thanks for the info/advice so far - any guesses on what grain pellet would be best with the R7? I'm guessing NOT the heavy sampler over at straight shooters? I want to say that I read somewhere in the 7 to 8 grain range would be best for this gun?
2010: two pair nested, 1 bird fledged.
2011: starlings/sparrows destroyed nests. I shut down the house early to save PM lives.
2012: new T-14 with SREH, & a Beeman R7. Four fledged this year.
2013: Destroyed many house sparrows, but fledged 21 PM's!
2011: starlings/sparrows destroyed nests. I shut down the house early to save PM lives.
2012: new T-14 with SREH, & a Beeman R7. Four fledged this year.
2013: Destroyed many house sparrows, but fledged 21 PM's!
I have the R7 double gold and it likes the JSB exact in a medium weight somewhere around 8 grains. It is a domed pellet which they say will travel in the wind a bit more true than a hollow point.
Go to the straight shooters website and read what they have to say about air guns and pellets.
Go to the straight shooters website and read what they have to say about air guns and pellets.
2009 One ASY pair 5 eggs 5 fledged 2010 2 pair 5 fledged 2011 8 pair 27 fledged 2012 14 pair 38 fledged
2013 20 pair 64 fledged 2014 19 pair fledged 84 2015 26 pair fledged 124 2016 36 pair fledged 156 2017 40 pair fledged 156
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2013 20 pair 64 fledged 2014 19 pair fledged 84 2015 26 pair fledged 124 2016 36 pair fledged 156 2017 40 pair fledged 156
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jeffwilliams72
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I know every gun is different , and one should always sample several different loads to see which one patterns best in that particular gun.
I have a Beeman Model-DE, and the 8 Grain Predator Polymag that KLC recommends, can't be touched, absolute superior performance, in my gun.
I would recommend this pellet for tight patterns needed to kill HOSP, on that so important, 1st shot.
I have a Beeman Model-DE, and the 8 Grain Predator Polymag that KLC recommends, can't be touched, absolute superior performance, in my gun.
I would recommend this pellet for tight patterns needed to kill HOSP, on that so important, 1st shot.
2008/1st pair/ 4 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
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jeffwilliams72
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I know every gun is different , and one should always sample several different loads to see which one patterns best in that particular gun.
I have a Beeman Model-DE, and the 8 Grain Predator Polymag that KLC recommends, can't be touched, absolute superior performance, in my gun.
I would recommend this pellet for tight patterns needed to kill HOSP, on that so important, 1st shot.
I have a Beeman Model-DE, and the 8 Grain Predator Polymag that KLC recommends, can't be touched, absolute superior performance, in my gun.
I would recommend this pellet for tight patterns needed to kill HOSP, on that so important, 1st shot.
2008/1st pair/ 4 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
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Sandy - NC
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I have yet to see a R-7 .177 that does not like to shoot JSB Exacts 8.7 gr accurately and consistently. Crossman pellets are also accurate, but they fit very tight into the bore of a Beeman barrel (the German made one, not the Chinese or Spanish made Beeman's). The R-7 is German made and made to tighter specs adn better overall quality. The Exacts are a domed pellet which give you better long distance flight trueness and deeper wound channels than any other type of pellet. And remember, you have to break a spring gun in and burn off excess manufacturing lubricants. You need to run at least 500 to 1000 shots through before it reaches its maximum potential. This gives you a chance to get use to gun and its characturistics, as well. Here is a target shot with mine, 10 shots to dime sized targets, 80 shots overall, 23 yards.
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Jim Spetzman
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Could I expect to hit sparrows at 100-125ft with a good quality pellet gun??
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Sandy - NC
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Yes, if you have a good scope, good steady hand, and you learn what your gun wants to be fed as far as pellets go. Also, you must practice, practice, and then practice some more so you have the confidence that you can make the shot. My target pictured above was shot at 23 yards or 69 feet. This gun is capable of making the shot you are describing, but so are many others. Don't buy a cheap gun, such as those sold a Walmart, Cabelas, etc. Go to a reputable air gun dealer which you can find online.
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dsonyay
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- Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.
2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)
2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.
2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged
2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(
2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.
2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.
Good quality air rifles with good scopes will easily do that. One example is the Benjamin Maraude and its little brother- the Discovery. They will shot dime size groups easily at 100 feet- with good pellets and a shooter that does his part.Jim Spetzman wrote:Could I expect to hit sparrows at 100-125ft with a good quality pellet gun??
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dsonyay
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- Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:10 pm
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- Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.
2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)
2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.
2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged
2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(
2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.
2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.
Sandy- those Crosman Premiers fit tight in my Gamo, and my previous rifles.
Even better is a choked barrel like premium makers use. But that's a whole 'nother topic I suppose.
BTW- nice looking target
Even better is a choked barrel like premium makers use. But that's a whole 'nother topic I suppose.
BTW- nice looking target
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Jim Spetzman
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What power scope would I need for my ranges???, Like a 1" scope that you would use on a deer rifle?
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dsonyay
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- Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.
2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)
2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.
2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged
2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(
2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.
2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.
I'd go with at least a zoom to about 9 at the least. Do a search on a Leaper's Bug Buster. It is designed for air rifles as well as 22 rimfires. It is outstanding for shooting small birds within these ranges. It has an Adjustable Aperture (AO) enabling it to focus down to a few feet.
A pretty go website for airguns and scopes is Pyramid Air (.com). Lots of reviews there and videos of rifle tests.
A pretty go website for airguns and scopes is Pyramid Air (.com). Lots of reviews there and videos of rifle tests.
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RandallRash
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+1 for the Diablo Exact pellets in the Beeman R7. But those Predator Polymags look pretty cool.
See my live Nest cam at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/purple-ma ... ndall-rash and ColonyCam at http://chris.homedns.org:8081 (Internet Explorer required and click yes to allow the add-in to run. Also enable sound by clicking the speaker in the upper left corner).
