Martins on the ground

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Pappy
Posts: 15
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:37 pm
Location: Mississippi, Bay St Louis

The wind has been blowing out of the east and southeast at speeds in the low 20s with gusts near 30 knots since yesterday. The house across the canal from me has a yard in the shape of a peninsula and I noticed that there are 50+ martins flying and circling the yard and surrounding water, but not very high, probably because of the wind. What is to me very unusual is that they are landing and taking off from a small dirt patch in the yard. I have seen martins during nesting time land on the ground to gather building material, but it is still to early to do that. Is this normal?See pictures
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Pappy
Laverne
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Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:58 pm
Location: TX/Alvin
Martin Colony History: Erected 1st house in 1997. Birds were checking it out before Mike got down from the ladder. Six cavities had a little colony 1st year. Grown to 88 cavities all gourds with near 100% occupancy. Most important factor for success is rain = bugs.

They're probably after some grit...

The PM's here will often land on our driveway (which is crushed limestone) and peck at the ground. They are eating small rocks and gravel to help with grinding up bugs in their gizzards. I think... :wink:

They will also take this same grit in to their nestlings.
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Laverne
bk
Posts: 206
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:53 pm
Location: Rowlett Tx

you know it might be warmer there on the ground or some perceived safety o9n the dirt as opposed to the grass. in any case its interesting, thanks.

bk rowlett tx
flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

PM's usually only go to the ground for a good reason. Either grit, nesting materia, fightingl etc, not to just hop around and hang out like some birds do. I would say if they are not getting nesting material it is likely the grit. I started offering oyster shells on a platform last year and saw them use it a few times. I have also seen them getting the grit from the shingles on my garage roof.
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
geezer
Posts: 311
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:21 pm
Location: Texas/Anna (north of dallas)

Bags of Crushed Oyster shells can be purchased cheaply at local farm supply stores. Some studies published by the PMCA showed PM's furnished with oyster shells fledged a higher number of babies than those given eggshells.

Oyster Shells are sanitary, and do not blow away in the wind. It's an easy way to help your martins.
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M.Stephens
Posts: 1130
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:14 pm
Location: Texas/Texarkana

I use the crushed oyster shells and they last a long time. My platform feeder is still full of shells after I filled it last year . The cardinals and other birds have been eating them year round.
Malcolm
2015 (110 nesting pair)
2014 (92 nesting pair)
2013 (75 nesting pair)
2012 (35 nesting pair)
2011 (20 pair)
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threelilkids
Posts: 386
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:11 pm
Location: Denham Springs, La
Martin Colony History: 2014 1 pair 3 hatched 3 fledged
2015 1 pair 5 hatched 5 fledged
2016 1 pair 5 hatched 4 fledged
2017 2 pair 8 hatched 8 fledged
2018 4 pair 15 hatched

I am not expert on PM but I am a vet tech and do know that birds do like to dust themselves. It helps with pest on them, ie, fleas mites etc, and also with heat and cooling. I see a PM in one of the pics squatting, so it make me think this is what they could also be doing. Although I have never seen a PM on the ground. Mary
Robbo
Posts: 624
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:53 pm
Location: Leduc, Alberta, Canada.

I was told Martin's rarely go on the ground when I began this (thing of ours :lol: ). I have a garden in the backyard and also provide an elevated feeder with Oyster shells etc. I find that the Martin's spend alot of time on the ground in the garden. I would guess for grit and mud and I am thinkink Ants. I think they are eating Ants as seem to have lots every year for some reason in the garden.
Rob.
2009. 98 eggs, 66 hatch, 61 fledged.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion :grin: . first egg May 25 in a BO-11
2018. Population stable.
flyin-lowe
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Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I have never seen anything showing martins eating insects from the ground. That would be interesting if they were eating ants.
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
D. Doll MN
Posts: 108
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 11:05 am
Location: ST CLOUD MN
Martin Colony History: Formally from Willmar MN moved in 2015 and started new colony in 2019 i had 27 pair.

I don’t know about the martins eating ants also but then again if they are hungry and the ants move it is possible. The reason I say it is possable one year the martins were landing in the grass in my lawn and picking up pieces of scrambled eggs that were dropped after they flew from the plat form feeder. Martins feeding from the ground unusual but they do strange things when they are hungry and have to. Also in August and September the martins land just to sit on the black top road to stay warm by a martin roost in central MN because they want to. Two example of anything is possible that what make watching them so interesting.
Dick Doll
MidTNJerry
Posts: 105
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:14 am
Location: Tennessee/Murfreesboro

I'd say it's either grit gathering or dust bathing.
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2011 - Many visitors.
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