There is a new house being offered at the PMCA store:
Click here for new model at the PMCA store
Hopefully we'll be able to get some feedback soon, from folks who use this setup.
Anyone noticed the new housing......
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James Johnson
- Posts: 109
- Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:30 am
- Location: Arkansas/Western Grove
Preeeeeeeeetty! Thank god I have an Alamo House that already fills this longing. Plastic vs. Aluminum though is a pretty hard choice. I suppose if I had it to over again I'd choose this new plastic. The cavaties seem to much bigger on the plastic house. I bet the insulation is better too. Just my 2 cents.
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With all the preaching that goes on about SREH's, why does it seem that most ad's picturing new houses all have round holes???
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flyin-lowe
- Posts: 3788
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
- Location: Indiana/Henry Co.
The SREH is important if you have an area with starlings. However people who don't have to battle starling will stick with the round holes as it does allow PM's to enter and exit housing faster. So in the event of a hawk attack the round holes can save a martin trying to get away.Bull Shoals wrote:With all the preaching that goes on about SREH's, why does it seem that most ad's picturing new houses all have round holes???
2026 HOSP 26
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
They also sell T-14's, I mean North Star Plastic's and manufacturing builds I guess you would say TH-14's? That is a good idea pretty pricey though. I wonder about the insulation factor, if it was as good or better than wood ?
Rob.
Rob.
2009. 98 eggs, 66 hatch, 61 fledged.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
. first egg May 25 in a BO-11
2018. Population stable.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
2018. Population stable.
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tonyg
- Posts: 1520
- Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:16 pm
- Location: Olpe, KS
- Martin Colony History: 22 year landlord, 14 at current residence..offering 9 racks and a homemade T-8 for 166 total cavities. 160 Pair in 2018 Racks consist of a Deluxe 12, AAA 16, Starburst 16, 2 K-18 Series, Super 24, 2 Gemini, Multi-purpose/two trio’s/4gourds and a T-8..Great hobby to be involved in..
Sticker shock!!!!!! I'll stick to my gourds..nice house though.
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John Miller
- Posts: 4863
- Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:11 pm
- Location: St. Louis, MO
Nice looking house. I'd have to examine one to see if I really like it...I probably would.
These prices...they are high but much of our better martin housing is made in the USA and Canada in modest quantities.
John M
These prices...they are high but much of our better martin housing is made in the USA and Canada in modest quantities.
John M
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James Johnson
- Posts: 109
- Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:30 am
- Location: Arkansas/Western Grove
The Amish are genuinely good people and are skilled in many crafts but IMHO most, like their openly modernized countrymen, tend to overprice everything they produce. The unpainted wooden Martin Houses are no exception. They are overpriced. But then so are domestically marketed PM houses (pieces and parts, some assembly required) some of which are fashioned or stamped off-shore. Now before some I- know-more-then-you (and there are many who do) sets out to name my ancestry, I have the experience, skill, tools, and access to materials to replicate any wooden or metal PMH on the market. I know by experience that when ALL time and expense is considered, a six cavity wooden Martin House can be completed (including paint) in less time and for less money than six natural gourds. That may not be true with the mass produced plastic gourds compared to mass produced wooden houses.
Now that I have said my piece, I have to go put the third coat of white elastomeric roof coating on six natural gourds. They have to completely dry and get a coat of white acrylic before going into service. I currently have 18 of these home-grown/naturally cured gourds with carved excluder entrances, metal roofs, and 4” inspection caps in the air. I hope to get these others flying for SY arrivals.
Now that I have said my piece, I have to go put the third coat of white elastomeric roof coating on six natural gourds. They have to completely dry and get a coat of white acrylic before going into service. I currently have 18 of these home-grown/naturally cured gourds with carved excluder entrances, metal roofs, and 4” inspection caps in the air. I hope to get these others flying for SY arrivals.
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Emil Pampell-Tx
- Posts: 6743
- Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26 pm
- Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
- Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas
Overpriced, or good buy. It all depends if you are buying or selliing....
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
I bought one and had it shipped here
, Iam not even going to comment on the price
. I did buy the Troyer's plans however with every intention of building and selling a few to recoup my investment. I cannot build a T-14 out of Cedar for less. I would think one could? I enjoyed building the T-14/nest trays and traps and I will probably build more. I cannot stop
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Rob.
Rob.
2009. 98 eggs, 66 hatch, 61 fledged.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
. first egg May 25 in a BO-11
2018. Population stable.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
2018. Population stable.
So Rob, what do you think of the new house. It looks like it should be pretty strong and light weight. Do you think it will be warm enough for your early arrivals?
I hope you increase your colony and have a great season!
James
I hope you increase your colony and have a great season!
James
2009 One ASY pair 5 eggs 5 fledged 2010 2 pair 5 fledged 2011 8 pair 27 fledged 2012 14 pair 38 fledged
2013 20 pair 64 fledged 2014 19 pair fledged 84 2015 26 pair fledged 124 2016 36 pair fledged 156 2017 40 pair fledged 156
PMCA member
2013 20 pair 64 fledged 2014 19 pair fledged 84 2015 26 pair fledged 124 2016 36 pair fledged 156 2017 40 pair fledged 156
PMCA member
James,
Sorry, I meant a T-14. I was just replying to the cost of the Amish built house.
Sorry, I meant a T-14. I was just replying to the cost of the Amish built house.
2009. 98 eggs, 66 hatch, 61 fledged.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
. first egg May 25 in a BO-11
2018. Population stable.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
2018. Population stable.
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AllenH
- Posts: 74
- Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:37 am
- Location: Minnesota/Crookston
- Martin Colony History: 2008 2 pair, 2009 22 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 51 pair
2012 66 pair, 2013 65 pair, 2014, 59 pair, 2015 67 pair
2016 78 pair, 108 nest cavities
I just built a T-14 out of Canadian 1x12x12 Clear Red Cedar. This is a grade better than what was used in my 2 purchased houses from PMCA. I purchased the hardware from the same sources they used.
I have just a few cents under $400.00 into the new one. 1x12x12's were $61.00 each. The boards were NOT the easily found glued up boards made from strips. This cost doesn't include the labor and other shop costs etc. I have a fully equipped cabinet shop. I even routed all the Conley II holes in the fronts and recesed them 3/8" from the backside.
I figure all I really saved was the shipping costs of a built T-14. I also don't include the time it takes to build at my pace, but it was fun.
I had to say something so others realize they are very expensive to build out of Western Red Cedar. They are light and with a little care last a very long time.
Al
I have just a few cents under $400.00 into the new one. 1x12x12's were $61.00 each. The boards were NOT the easily found glued up boards made from strips. This cost doesn't include the labor and other shop costs etc. I have a fully equipped cabinet shop. I even routed all the Conley II holes in the fronts and recesed them 3/8" from the backside.
I figure all I really saved was the shipping costs of a built T-14. I also don't include the time it takes to build at my pace, but it was fun.
I had to say something so others realize they are very expensive to build out of Western Red Cedar. They are light and with a little care last a very long time.
Al
Thanks Allen,
That is what I was trying to say, but if you build it youself you get something more
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Rob.
That is what I was trying to say, but if you build it youself you get something more
Rob.
2009. 98 eggs, 66 hatch, 61 fledged.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
. first egg May 25 in a BO-11
2018. Population stable.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion
2018. Population stable.
