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Guest
I have now installed the nest block/dam and secured them with a couple of toothpicks. I also for very cheap purchased dowling material and created perches that I did not have before.
Awesome job on the nest trays!
Your Martins are going to love them.
One thing you can use to attach the dams/barriers, is some type of epoxy, or even hot glue.
You might issues with it coming loose with the toothpicks.
Again, great job!
Your Martins are going to love them.
One thing you can use to attach the dams/barriers, is some type of epoxy, or even hot glue.
You might issues with it coming loose with the toothpicks.
Again, great job!
This is what I used for my Styrofoam Houses. Real easy, real strong, reasonably priced, found at Lowes, more ounces and cheaper than gorilla glue.
Manufacturer description: "You can glue almost anything with PL® Premium Polyurethane Wood Glue… wood, stone, marble, metal, foam, and even some plastics. Made with polyurethane, it’s 100% waterproof and weatherproof. Holds tight in both interior and exterior applications."
See enclosed pic and my website.
Manufacturer description: "You can glue almost anything with PL® Premium Polyurethane Wood Glue… wood, stone, marble, metal, foam, and even some plastics. Made with polyurethane, it’s 100% waterproof and weatherproof. Holds tight in both interior and exterior applications."
See enclosed pic and my website.
Bob n Jo,
Check our web pages with pics and clips:
http://elwood.longlines.com/~jobob1/Sit ... olony.html
Check our web pages with pics and clips:
http://elwood.longlines.com/~jobob1/Sit ... olony.html
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John Miller
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Looks great.
The toothpicks are a good idea. I've used "liquid nails" on styrofoam, but it's only as good as the surface layer...styrofoam material can break but should hold up several seasons.
My mom uses toothpicks on cake layers and seems to work! (until you bite into one).
Maybe you are a baker.
Good luck this season.
John M
The toothpicks are a good idea. I've used "liquid nails" on styrofoam, but it's only as good as the surface layer...styrofoam material can break but should hold up several seasons.
My mom uses toothpicks on cake layers and seems to work! (until you bite into one).
Maybe you are a baker.
Good luck this season.
John M
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Bearbarrow
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I am a newbie so I have a question about the reason for the foam? Today I have 2- aluminum boxes arriving from UPS and will have them on the pole ASAP. Do I need to get some of that foam and put inside? Any help is appreciated.
Respectfully,
Bear
Forney, TX
Bear
Forney, TX
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Bearbarrow
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I am a newbie so I have a question about the reason for the foam? Today I have 2- aluminum boxes arriving from UPS and will have them on the pole ASAP. Do I need to get some of that foam and put inside? Any help is appreciated.
Respectfully,
Bear
Forney, TX
Bear
Forney, TX
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John Miller
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Hi Bear
Welcome to the Forum.
The foam is just one of a variety of approaches to make an elevated floor that keeps nests dry. Some aluminum housing allows water to seep across the floor and nests get wet; very young nestlings can die. The aluminum and wire mesh subfloors help some, but may allow water to wick up into the nests.
Look at the nest trays sold by the PMCA -- lots of different approaches to this. Let us know what kind of house you are using -- you may already have subfloors and can overlay those with a piece of roof shingle -- gravel side up to give traction to hold the nest together and for the babies to get their footing and not develop "leg splay".
John M
Welcome to the Forum.
The foam is just one of a variety of approaches to make an elevated floor that keeps nests dry. Some aluminum housing allows water to seep across the floor and nests get wet; very young nestlings can die. The aluminum and wire mesh subfloors help some, but may allow water to wick up into the nests.
Look at the nest trays sold by the PMCA -- lots of different approaches to this. Let us know what kind of house you are using -- you may already have subfloors and can overlay those with a piece of roof shingle -- gravel side up to give traction to hold the nest together and for the babies to get their footing and not develop "leg splay".
John M
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Bearbarrow
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Mr. John,
They are Coates "Watersedge" suites. They have 3- rooms per side (6-total).
They are Coates "Watersedge" suites. They have 3- rooms per side (6-total).
Respectfully,
Bear
Forney, TX
Bear
Forney, TX
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John Miller
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Bear
I've used these houses for several seasons at one of our sites in Forest Park St. Louis. I think they come with aluminum subfloors -- I would not use the styrofoam in this particular house because it can raise the back compartment floor up to the level of the interior entrance -- martins need a bit of a nest bowl to hold the babies safely in. (once babies are older they move about.)
I overlay these floors with a 6 x 6 inch square of roof shingle or one-fourth inch thick cork -- the cork is lighter and can get flipped up in other situations, but here the house sides hold it in. Overlay all this with some pre-nest material... I used chopped up white pine needles and maybe some leaf litter mixed in.
"Texans" can add more..I'm off to shovel snow now!
John M
I've used these houses for several seasons at one of our sites in Forest Park St. Louis. I think they come with aluminum subfloors -- I would not use the styrofoam in this particular house because it can raise the back compartment floor up to the level of the interior entrance -- martins need a bit of a nest bowl to hold the babies safely in. (once babies are older they move about.)
I overlay these floors with a 6 x 6 inch square of roof shingle or one-fourth inch thick cork -- the cork is lighter and can get flipped up in other situations, but here the house sides hold it in. Overlay all this with some pre-nest material... I used chopped up white pine needles and maybe some leaf litter mixed in.
"Texans" can add more..I'm off to shovel snow now!
John M
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I sure dont miss shoveling snow as I grew up in Manhattan Kansas. Snowed all the time when I was a kid.