New colony in Arlington, VA

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nvbirdalliance
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Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:00 pm
Location: Alexandria, VA

Hello friends! We put up our colony last year in Feb but didn't get any takers last Spring (of any species).

Some info about our site: https://www.nvbirdalliance.org/news/asn ... r-mile-run

I am very hopeful we will get purple martins this year because last summer people saw some purple martins sitting on the structure.

If anyone else has a colony in NOVA and has some advice, lmk. I am going to go check out the Burke Lake colony next week.

Wish us luck!
flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Looks like a good location. A big issue with colonies in such locations is dealing with sparrows. Trapping or shooting is about the only way to truly deal with them. I don't know what the local martin colonies there are like but it is not uncommon to have to try for 5 years or more to get a new colony started. Some obviously establish quicker, but don't get disappointed if not. Hopefully there are some nearby colonies that fledged young last year which will be looking for a place to live this year.
2025 HOSP count-7
2024 60 pair, HOSP count-44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP count-8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP count-14
2021 62 nest fledged aprox. 230, HOSP count-9
2020 42 nest, Fledged 164, HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
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2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
scottfreidhof
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Location: Kentucky/Morehead

A wonderful location for sure! I hope the birds choose the site this spring. Based upon the photos in the article, the vegetation around the base of the pole does not look maintained. I believe martins prefer a clear area around the pole. Someone might keep it mowed to a 10-foot radius to improve odds of acceptance.
John Miller
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Location: St. Louis, MO

Good luck to you. These look to be PMCA's Excluder Gourds. As you put the gourds up last year and likely purchased before a notice was given by the excluder gourd manufactuer that some SREH entrances were too small and not to spec, I suggest you check your entrances. If the entrances are smaller than 1 3/16 high, martins cannot enter. A notice was posted by the PMCA on the Forum.

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John Miller

To measure (difficult with a ruler), cut a wedge of white poster board, plastic or aluminum, flat on bottom and tapered at top. Mark a line at 1 3/16 (measure carefully; calipers best) and insert into the entrance. Crescents should be 1 3/16. Entrances with pips can go to 1 7/32 and still restrict starlings.
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Jones4381
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Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Southwestern VA
Martin Colony History: 2020- 0
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122

John Miller wrote:
Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:54 pm
Good luck to you. These look to be PMCA's Excluder Gourds. As you put the gourds up last year and likely purchased before a notice was given by the excluder gourd manufactuer that some SREH entrances were too small and not to spec, I suggest you check your entrances. If the entrances are smaller than 1 3/16 high, martins cannot enter. A notice was posted by the PMCA on the Forum.

viewtopic.php?t=38767&hilit=Excluder+gourds

John Miller
Good point. I had one of mine with the smaller entrance. Actually trapped a female inside. I was able to get her out through the side portal (she flew out actually) and needless to say that gourd was not selected anymore that season even though I turned it from a an excluder opening to a crescent opening. It's hanging back up this year, we'll see.
"Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you." - Lao Tzu
nvbirdalliance
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Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:00 pm
Location: Alexandria, VA

Thank you for the advice on clearing vegetation around the pole. We went out and did that last week. Fingers crossed!
nvbirdalliance
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Location: Alexandria, VA

Jones4381 wrote:
Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:40 am
John Miller wrote:
Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:54 pm
Good luck to you. These look to be PMCA's Excluder Gourds. As you put the gourds up last year and likely purchased before a notice was given by the excluder gourd manufactuer that some SREH entrances were too small and not to spec, I suggest you check your entrances. If the entrances are smaller than 1 3/16 high, martins cannot enter. A notice was posted by the PMCA on the Forum.

viewtopic.php?t=38767&hilit=Excluder+gourds

John Miller
Good point. I had one of mine with the smaller entrance. Actually trapped a female inside. I was able to get her out through the side portal (she flew out actually) and needless to say that gourd was not selected anymore that season even though I turned it from a an excluder opening to a crescent opening. It's hanging back up this year, we'll see.
Thank you for this advice! Ours are too small! Yikes! Any ideas on how to fix? I emailed to ask for replacements and we will try sanding to be a bit bigger. Oh man these gourds were a headache the whole time. Anyone have an alternative source for gourds?
Jones4381
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Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Southwestern VA
Martin Colony History: 2020- 0
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122

I have 6. I used a carpenters knife to cut away the 2 nodes that stuck up from the bottom and shave a little from the top. Only 1 of mine was an issue...basically turned it into a crescent entrance. Plenty of choices out there on gourds, I use the Boaxis from SK as well as Troyer Gourds. I had many naturals but due to maintenance and lack of time I moed to all plastic this season. Glad you caught it and PMCA made their announcement. I had a female trapped last season and was able to save here and fix the gourd by luck.
"Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you." - Lao Tzu
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