Early Arrivals?

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birdman in buckhead
Posts: 174
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged

Greetings Fellow Landlords!

Is it just me or does anyone else think birds are arriving earlier this year than in years past? This was my first time logging on the forum this year and I was shocked at the "scout" sightings! I haven't seen any here, yet, and haven't even cleaned the units. I've never had birds arrive any earlier than late February/early March here in north central GA. And I figured the deep freeze we had 2 weeks ago would have delayed their arrival time.

I'm certainly not complaining and will clean out my 20 units TODAY!
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3177
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025:
HOSP: 3 Starlings: 10
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 4 natural gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025:
PMCA member

Man, well just for us...early, way early. Expected them at home feb 8, January 26th show. 7 birds now.
Preserve: expected date 27 feb. Arrival date 2 feb. 5 birds now.
Kinda nuts.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
killerv
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:40 am
Location: Central Ga

I've got to pick on ya, Buckhead is not north central Ga.

Off the top of my head, 4 years ago, March 15 for me, 3 years ago, March 15 exactly like the year before for me

Last year, a month early, Feb 15, my colony is pretty established by now so I figured that may have something to do with it

This year, Feb 2.

Hopefully they feed up while they can, we are do for atleast a couple more cold fronts.
brent
Posts: 1160
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:43 pm
Location: Raceland, Louisiana

My birds arrived 3 days earlier than last year. What I am observing is that the birds seem to be pairing very early. Maybe due to the unusually warm weather but I wouldn’t be surprised if nest building is a couple of weeks earlier than last year. Brent
Brent
birdman in buckhead
Posts: 174
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged

I've got to pick on ya, Buckhead is not north central Ga.
killerv - no worries about picking on me! I've got thick skin from working in a chemical production plant and oil rigs in South LA. I'm curious to know, if not north central, where do you consider Buckhead to be located in GA? It's not in the mountains, but it's not MidGA either....... Is sorta north central GA more accurate? :lol:
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
Condorman
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue May 17, 2016 10:17 pm
Location: Southern Pines, North Carolina
Martin Colony History: Started new colony at daughter's small farm in 2024. Acquired aluminum houses from landlords that have had failures or never were able to attract martins (wrong locations). Retrofitted entrance doors with 3/4" wooden blocks with entrance holes to increase insulation and add stability to the box. First ASYM arrived in late April, by June 1, 4 pairs= 3 ASYM's and 1 SYM. Biggest concern is predation by rat snakes. By June 1 still haven't developed a safe rat snake guard and count each day without predation as pure luck. First ASYM feeding first young on 5/26/24.

No, this can't bode well. I see the first bird has just been recorded in North Carolina, near Lumberton. That's only about 20 minutes for a martin away from me. We've had ice and freezing rain for 4 days on this date in past years. We've got a few cold days (40's) forecast for next week but then in the 50's and low 60's. A very early date for here would be 15 February. They're gonna get caught.....
tor
Posts: 275
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity:96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2025: We will see what the expansion does.
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

I've been looking at SC and NC reports, and they seem to be reporting (same reporter / location) earlier than last year as well. I usually get the first ones around the 22nd of February in NE SC, Marlboro Co. We'll see what happens.

Tor
Tor
Marlboro County
South Carolina

Purple Martins Of South Carolina
birdman in buckhead
Posts: 174
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged

tor wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:51 pm
I've been looking at SC and NC reports, and they seem to be reporting (same reporter / location) earlier than last year as well. I usually get the first ones around the 22nd of February in NE SC, Marlboro Co. We'll see what happens.

Tor
Have your birds started showing up yet? I'm still waiting.
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
tor
Posts: 275
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: 2025 Capacity:96
72 Hor / Vert Troyers on 3 X Super-24's.
24 Hor Troyers on Gemini-24.

2025: We will see what the expansion does.
2024: 72 pair - Fledge: 356
2023: 72 pair - Fledge: 342
2022: 72 pair - Fledge: 322
2021: 71 pair - Fledge: 325
2020: 72 pair - Fledge: 336
2019: 70 pair - Fledge: 320
2018: 60 pair - Fledge: 297
2017: 36 pair - Fledge: 189
2016: 16 pair - Fledge: 79
2015: 4 pair - Fledge: 21

Sorry for the late reply, Terry. First adult showed up 2/17 in the Pee Dee of SC. We currently have around 30 martins.
Tor
Marlboro County
South Carolina

Purple Martins Of South Carolina
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 2374
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2017 Visitors
Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 162 Eggs, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 146 Eggs, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 157 Eggs, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 212 Eggs, 198 Fledged

Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 39 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair 64 Eggs, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 89 Eggs, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 111 Eggs, 104 Fledged

.. We have had two reports here in Ohio... Both are about two weeks early... But I don't expect mine to arrive until late March..

Dave
PMCA Member
Little Hocking, Ohio
DonDon
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:18 pm
Location: Morton Mississippi

I'm a month ahead of schedule this year. 3 came in this weekend in Central Mississippi
Mstan
Posts: 94
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:52 pm
Location: Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2023 two gourd racks 24 gourds ,kept no records. Became an official landlord. 2024 28 gourds keeping records.

I’m ten days early from last year. Had a pair come in. Two days of storms and now cold. Haven’t seen the pair since Monday. Suppose to warm up now.
Mstan
Posts: 94
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:52 pm
Location: Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2023 two gourd racks 24 gourds ,kept no records. Became an official landlord. 2024 28 gourds keeping records.

Went out this morning to raise gourds and plug in song magnet after the two day storm. Much to my joy my pair of Martins emerged from their gourd! I love these birds. Today’s high in the 50s with a week of warmer temps. They should be able to find food this afternoon as the must be hungry. I believe my season is moving in a good direction now. Hope everyone one has a blessed season of landlording. Thank you for all your sharing on this forum as it has been very helpful. God bless.
Thomas Maddox
Posts: 438
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 pm
Location: Sulphur, Louisiana

Glad they survived! I lost 8 out of 8 here in SWLA with our earlier record freeze, but I'm up to about 8-10 now and the weather is great. Have a great season!
Markansas
Posts: 7
Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 pm
Location: Arkansas

Mine have come around March 15 in northwest Arkansas for years until last year March 7 and then suddenly this year scouts showed up on Feb 27. Sure enough had a cold snap and 2 of the 5 died. No idea why they are coming so early

birdman in buckhead wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:06 pm
Greetings Fellow Landlords!

Is it just me or does anyone else think birds are arriving earlier this year than in years past? This was my first time logging on the forum this year and I was shocked at the "scout" sightings! I haven't seen any here, yet, and haven't even cleaned the units. I've never had birds arrive any earlier than late February/early March here in north central GA. And I figured the deep freeze we had 2 weeks ago would have delayed their arrival time.

I'm certainly not complaining and will clean out my 20 units TODAY!
Mstan
Posts: 94
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:52 pm
Location: Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2023 two gourd racks 24 gourds ,kept no records. Became an official landlord. 2024 28 gourds keeping records.

I was sad for my fellow landlords who were battling the cold down south and losing birds. I am glad it has warmed up and you are getting more Martins.
Coldhilldreamer
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:47 am
Location: London, Kentucky

Was glad to have arrivals on February 28th in London, Ky. However, the martins are not staying in their two floor apartment house and am not sure why. They land on it, go in it and fly around it. Could the units be too clean? Don’t want to miss out enjoying the martins this year. What can I do?

Thanks, Sherry
Thomas Maddox
Posts: 438
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 pm
Location: Sulphur, Louisiana

Did you have PMs last year? If so, how many? Regardless, that's not unusual behavior when they arrive. They are just checking things out.
Coldhilldreamer
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:47 am
Location: London, Kentucky

Yes I did, and thank you for responding. For the last two years, they take the house immediately after first look! Anything I can do to draw them in?

Thanks again,
Sherry
Thomas Maddox
Posts: 438
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 pm
Location: Sulphur, Louisiana

Ultimately they decide where they want to live. Things you can do: Keep trees at least 50-60 feet from your pm house. Make sure you keep house sparrows out of your PM house. Have predator guards in place on your pole. Maybe others will add to this. Best of luck!
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