I've had an S&K 12 compartment house up for a few years now. I didn't properly manage it and was wiped out by a rat snake last year. After that, I got serious about starting a proper colony. I took down that S&K house and bought another one, but enlarged the compartments, closed off the attics, and added predator guards. I also took out a few trees. This was later in the season and no PM stopped by again. I also bought a 16 compartment Trendsetter and put it up. I have added predator guards to this one also. Additionally, I've prenested with pine straw. Do you think that the Song Bird magnet is worth it? I still work full time.
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2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
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Sir, great upgrades. Sorry for those losses, we all learn and make it better. Sounds to me like your doing all the right things.
Why not? If it works, great!! I'd say give it a shot.
Just my 2 cents.
Tom
Why not? If it works, great!! I'd say give it a shot.
Just my 2 cents.
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
My opinion would be, anyone trying to attract Martins to a new colony should be playing the Dawn Song. My experience with the Bird Magnet is a little mixed. The good part and the most important is that it definitely attracted Martins and you don't have to worry about in the weather. On the down side the Dawn Song it plays is a bit glitchy ( but it attracted Martins) and I had one that quit working. I plugged it into a timer so it would play when I wanted without having to start and stop manually. I hope this information helps.
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Thank you both!
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Good afternoon,
I am also thinking of buying the SBM. We had a colony collapse two years ago through my own fault. I have an iPod with a set of speakers that I played last year and we had 1 pair so we are in the process of rebuilding however I do not want to leave the iPod and speakers outside when we are not at home so I was thinking of the SBM.
What do you mean its play is a bit glitchy? Also does it come with the dawn song loaded and does it have a volume control. The info is a bit lax in operation details.
TT
I am also thinking of buying the SBM. We had a colony collapse two years ago through my own fault. I have an iPod with a set of speakers that I played last year and we had 1 pair so we are in the process of rebuilding however I do not want to leave the iPod and speakers outside when we are not at home so I was thinking of the SBM.
What do you mean its play is a bit glitchy? Also does it come with the dawn song loaded and does it have a volume control. The info is a bit lax in operation details.
TT
It has no volume control and yes the Dawn Song is loaded on it. You can choose between the Dawn Song and other song birds. By glitchy, I mean it is not fluid sounding like the cd version. Both of the SBMs I had were a poor quality audio that would kinda hesitate at some points and then continue on. I had no problem with them in the weather and they did attract Martins.
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I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Why not another $50 after I've already dropped a small fortune on the Trendsetter and accessories. The SBM, at least the newer ones, do have a volume adjustment knob. I am not sure about the quantity of the sound. I read a ton of old posts here about the SBM. Many stated that the device didn't seem to sturdy, only lasting a season or 2, but many seemed to think they were effective in drawing in PMs. If It helps me draw in a pair or two, it will be worth it for me.
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2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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I think you did the right thing. Iv never used it, but they are drawn to the sounds. Last year I put up a late house for the subbies, they wouldn't go for it at all....they were drawn to the commotion at the other systems. Days, nothing. House was in view of the main systems too.
I went and found purple martin chatter and played it on my phone right under the house. 30 maybe 40 minutes, they were checking it out. They were a bit confused because it was a lot of martins making a racket on the phone but it worked.
Hope yours works and you fill up! Even one season, money well spent in my view.
All the best,
Tom
I went and found purple martin chatter and played it on my phone right under the house. 30 maybe 40 minutes, they were checking it out. They were a bit confused because it was a lot of martins making a racket on the phone but it worked.
Hope yours works and you fill up! Even one season, money well spent in my view.
All the best,
Tom
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... Great Question .. I have never use one.. I bought an outdoor speaker and wired it up to the Aux speakers in the back of my boom box.. I played the Dawn Song all day, from 8 in the morning until 5 or 6 in the evenings. It did bring in Martins every year, but until I moved my houses to a more open area, I didn’t get any to stay. My gourd rack is about 250 feet away from my house .. When I saw martins going in and out of the houses and gourds, I would turn the volume way down... or off.. It will bring them in to look around, but you have got to be in an area with a few different flying paths to the houses.. Once you get them ,, they will bring other Martins to your houses, so you probably won’t need the Dawn Song any longer...
Good luck ...
Dave
Good luck ...
Dave
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Thanks for the replies. My PM house is about 60 feet from my home and no trees are closer than 60 feet from the PM house. Hopefully they'll like the setup and a few will move in this year . I realize it may take a few years to get established though. However, due to the recent devastating hurricanes (Laura and Ida), many PM houses were destroyed, so you never know.
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2016 0 pairs
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2019 10 pair
2020 25 pair
2021 42 Pair
2022 60 Pair
2023 72 Pair
I’ve had two of the songbird magnets for several years they work well and have a volume control. I actually put one of the songbird magnets in the S&K barn style house. After enlarging the compartments to only six compartments and closing the attic. I had an idea that I thought would work fairly well I open the attic and put the songbird magnet in the attic and ran the cord down the pole. So not only does it make it sound like there’s birds in the house it elevates the sound of the songbird magnet higher in the air. I hope this helps.
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Got her up and running! The quality of the sound isn't bad in my opinion and the volume goes very high. I've started playing it as I'm trying to get my neighbors used to their noise. Lol. This is normally the time of year when the scouts start arriving in Louisiana. We'll see. I've done all that I can do up to this point.
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2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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That was fast!!!
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Yes sir! One of the positive attributes of of technology and the internet. The house is up and ready with additional perch rods. A few decoys added and now the chatter. If I don't get any visitors this year, It will still seem like they are here. Just unplug and replay. Boom. PM Heaven.
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- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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Good gosh!! I feel like I'm behind now haha. Sounds like your set! Man, let's hope for the best!
This weekend I put up sparrow traps, next weekend the houses all go up!
Its a bit early for us yet, but i did take one GR down and set up 18 gourds in the garage....had to tie the top of the pole to the rafters in the attic....looked great, almost didn't want to take it down. 9 trips up and down. (Most of my stuff is stored in the attic)...Twice. Im ready!
This weekend I put up sparrow traps, next weekend the houses all go up!
Its a bit early for us yet, but i did take one GR down and set up 18 gourds in the garage....had to tie the top of the pole to the rafters in the attic....looked great, almost didn't want to take it down. 9 trips up and down. (Most of my stuff is stored in the attic)...Twice. Im ready!
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
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Ha ha Tom, I'm just an eager newbie. Oh, I even put in a few mirrors. I'm in sw Louisiana and, according to the Scout reports from last year, we already had arrivals. This year, no reports as of yet. Maybe, the freeze we got last February is the culprit.
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2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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Mirrors, mud, songs, shoot ill get a witch doctor with voo doo if thats the recipe. Your doing good.
This north wind will stall them, but it won't last. As bad as id like to see them, I don't want to see them just yet! Not in this weather but they come when they want.
This north wind will stall them, but it won't last. As bad as id like to see them, I don't want to see them just yet! Not in this weather but they come when they want.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
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Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 162 Eggs, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 146 Eggs, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 157 Eggs, 130 Fledged
Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 39 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair 64 Eggs, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 89 Eggs, 84 Fledged
,,Thomas Maddox wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:04 amHa ha Tom, I'm just an eager newbie. Oh, I even put in a few mirrors. I'm in sw Louisiana and, according to the Scout reports from last year, we already had arrivals. This year, no reports as of yet. Maybe, the freeze we got last February is the culprit.
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You got everything in order.. This will be the year for ya... Keep us posted....
Good luck
Dave
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Thanks Dave. Will do!