Replacing Glide Pins In Hub

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Tim Mangan-Kansas
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In a recent thread, several landlords, myself included, mentioned they needed to replace the white plastic glide pins in the hub on their poles. I removed the hub off of my pole and saw I had two pins missing and the remaining 14 were wore down to the point they could break off at any time. I decided to replace all the glide pins while I had the hub off of the pole. My multi-purpose pole with hub is eight years old.

Yesterday, I received my replacement glide pins and this morning started replacing them. For those of you who are also in the process of replacing your glide pins, here is how I did it and it has worked well.

First I measured the distance between two pins facing opposite each other in the hub. My distance between the two was approximately 3". I then cut a board just shy of 3" to use as a brace to go in between the two new pins needing installed. Once I put the board between the two pins, I inserted a shim and hammered it in to make it good and tight. Here is a picture of the board and shim in place holding the two new pins tightly in place.

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Once I had the two pins secured, I used my heat gun to soften the pin on the outside of the hub. With the end of the heat gun about an inch away from the pin, it took about a minute to get the plastic to the point where you could see it getting soft and small bubbles appearing. (This will depend on the quality of heat gun you have.) Hear is a picture showing heat gun getting the pin soft enough to work with.

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After I saw the plastic heating up and getting soft, I quickly put the heat gun down and with a nail set, I hammered down on it causing the soft plastic to expand around the hole in the hub. Here is a picture of one pin that is done beside another one that has yet to be heated. You can also see the nail set I used to spread the plastic pin. You will notice the hole in the center of the pin on the left from where I hit it with the nail set.

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Hope this helps anyone else in the process of replacing the plastic glide pins in their hubs.

Tim
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I do not have such equipment, but your explanation and instructions seem to be perfect. I especially like the idea of the board so that you can fasten the glide pins with a nail set
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Good work Tim!
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Tim,
That repair looks very professional.
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Tim that is a great post because they do wear out over a period of time. I had to replace some on one of my hubs a few years back.
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JJ Jones
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Tim,

Do you think it is possible to replace glide buttons without taking the hub off the rack? Thanks!

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Tim Mangan-Kansas
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JJ:

If you have room to insert the pins into the hub with your fingers while the hub is on the pole, then yes it can be done. You would just have to place a board, couple shims or something in between the pin and the pole to keep it in place while you heat it up from the outside.

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JJ Jones
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Thanks for your valuable input Tim. I was wondering if there was another way to do this without taking down the entire apparatus.

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Tim I wonder if there is some type of preventative Maintenence that could be done to help with the longevity of those pins? Waxing the poles every year at the end of the season?
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Tim Mangan-Kansas
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Tony:

I have no idea. I do wax my pole every year, at least the bottom 12'-13' that I can reach when I don't remove the top 8' section. When I replaced all my glide pins I noticed some on one side of the hub were more worm than the other three sides. Since I have two different style houses on my hub, the weight on one side was greater than the other side. Figure this caused the glide pins on one side to wear quicker and eventually causing two of them to completely wear away and break off from the hub. Just glad I did a complete inspection to find the missing glide pins and get them all replaced.
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