How late in the summer do PM's lay eggs and hatch them?

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DeepPurple
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Location: Kentucky/Morganfield

Is it too late in the summer for me to believe that I might get a family of PM's ??? How late in the summer do they breed?
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Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

My first ever Martin egg was laid 6-17. The clutch was completed Thursday. I suspected eggs were coming though as I spotted green leaves going into a gourd two weeks ago today on a Sunday.

I have several other birds but do not believe they will nest this year primarily to not finding a mate. I've had consistent daily activity from several birds since may 17th.

By the end of June mating is almost over in Northeast Ohio

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
pmlover
Posts: 805
Joined: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:30 pm
Location: OH/New Concord

I have some laying now
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Wow Pmlover you went from two pair to sixty!!! What do attribute your trendies growth to? Did you quadruple your housing?

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
DebA
Posts: 1941
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 7:43 am
Location: Pratt County/Kansas
Martin Colony History: Start 2009 with one pair. Upgraded from S&K houses to two Trendsetter 12's with gourds beneath in 2013. I have experienced job, pet, and parental losses since '13. The Purple Martins lift my spirits and remind me how life continues forward by flying their little selves from Brazil back to my yard. As one forum person once told me, chin up DebA, look at the martins. Danger all around but yet they soar in the sky without a care in the world.

I've had a renest (SY male threw out their eggs) that was laid in early July. Five babies did fine and fledged mid August. They took off immediately after. I had to mist and ice pack in the house to help them with the heat. But they all made it.
Deb
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Pratt County, Kansas
2016 34 PAIR
2015 27 PAIR
2014 23 PAIR
2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
MamaBruff
Posts: 1466
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:21 pm
Location: SW Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.

Like I said before, Deb, If I was a Purple Martin, I would stay at your place and be pampered. Do you give them little massages too? Just Kidding! You work hard to make a difference for them, and it shows! :grin:
~Mary B~

Lifelong PM Admirer and Nature Enthusiast.
Ruthless trapper of S&S year round.
2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.
DebA
Posts: 1941
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 7:43 am
Location: Pratt County/Kansas
Martin Colony History: Start 2009 with one pair. Upgraded from S&K houses to two Trendsetter 12's with gourds beneath in 2013. I have experienced job, pet, and parental losses since '13. The Purple Martins lift my spirits and remind me how life continues forward by flying their little selves from Brazil back to my yard. As one forum person once told me, chin up DebA, look at the martins. Danger all around but yet they soar in the sky without a care in the world.

I did today!
Sort of.
Deb
PMCA MEMBER
Pratt County, Kansas
2016 34 PAIR
2015 27 PAIR
2014 23 PAIR
2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
MamaBruff
Posts: 1466
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:21 pm
Location: SW Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.

8)
~Mary B~

Lifelong PM Admirer and Nature Enthusiast.
Ruthless trapper of S&S year round.
2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.
Louise Chambers
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Continuing to find new clutches of eggs here in south TX, in gourds that have just fledged young. Either it's SY pairs that had to wait to get a gourd, or it might be adult pairs going for a second brood, despite the heat and continuing drought. I wish they would not do that! But current broods are all looking good and healthy, the rains in April & May helped increase insect numbers.
Gobbler T
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Location: Mississippi / Columbus

Kinda glad to hear that Louise. I was thinking of asking a similar question myself. I have 2 (what seem to be SY) pair that act like they are searching for a nesting spot. I was thinking that it was way to late, but maybe not. I know nesting this late would be a HOT endevor for them in the south.
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DornCounty
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DebA wrote:I've had a renest (SY male threw out their eggs) that was laid in early July. Five babies did fine and fledged mid August. They took off immediately after. I had to mist and ice pack in the house to help them with the heat. But they all made it.
Deb
Same here.. last year had a pair show up about this time.. and fledged in mid august.
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pmlover
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Location: OH/New Concord

mitch once I killed 70 starlings the pairs kept arriving from other colonies that were starling infested. I'm retired and appreciate them so much I watch over them like my children. my houses are full and I don't know if I can physically add more housing. If it wasn't for my amish friends I wouldn't have the amount of housing up I have now
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
jr 2
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Location: ohio,proctorville(just across ohio river from huntington,west virginia)

i think that the reason my colony is growing is the other people that has pm housing close by is not controling the sparrows and starlings; i have eliminated 26 sparrow this year and have all sreh too control starlings;;jr2
PMCA member; s 2011 2 pair fledged 3; 2012 3 asy pair,4 sy pair,2013 8 asy pair,6 sy pair;2014 19 asy pair,2 sy pair
Caroline94535-ND
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:12 am
Location: North Dakota/Larimore
Martin Colony History: Will add later

I am in North Dakota. My PM season seems even more weird than normal this year.

I did a nest check on June 17 because for the first time since their late arrival, most of the martins were hanging around the gourd rack that day.

I had four nests with one egg each, and one nest with four eggs. I have 16 gourds and at that nest check 13 had well made nests.

I am going to check them again this afternoon to see how the egg production is going.

We had a very late, wet, cold, windy start to the season. They arrived April 29. They're usually here by April 15-23. I've been haunted by a hawk until last week. He kept them from staying at the gourds; they'd only come in right at dark. We had a solid week of rain, non-stop; that was more frightening than the hawk to me.

They've persevered and egg laying is just now in full-swing and the heat and humidity is worse than it should be in August. I saw hens that are not sitting yet hanging their heads out of the gourds and panting.

Like all my past seasons, it's going to be a roller-coaster ride. It's either too cold (I've had snow on my new arrivals in the past) or too hot (but I'm thankful I've not yet experienced jumpers) or too dry, or too wet. This season has managed to experience all of these so far.
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Connie
Posts: 441
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:05 pm
Location: WALKER, LOUISIANA
Martin Colony History: Had my site up to 22 gourds of which most (+/-3) stayed occupied.
Downsized to 17 gourds due to back surgeries. Had 14 families in 2017 but did not do nest checks due to health. Feeling better in 2018 and hoping for a good year.

Caroline wrote:I am in North Dakota. My PM season seems even more weird than normal this year.

Like all my past seasons, it's going to be a roller-coaster ride. It's either too cold (I've had snow on my new arrivals in the past) or too hot (but I'm thankful I've not yet experienced jumpers) or too dry, or too wet. This season has managed to experience all of these so far.
Gosh Caroline,
I just saw your post.....you are having/had a rough season! :-(
I sure hope things get better and eggs appear in all the rest of your nests....Heck I might as well go all the way and hope you get a full house!
Good luck. :)
Connie
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