When is it too hot?
Hi all. I have a late nest of 3 young that are now 8 days old. Last nest check they look great and are growing. Parents are actively involved. The temperature is predicted to be 95 with heat index of 105. I have Trendsetter houses that are vented. What do you think? Too hot or worrying for nothing? Let me know your thoughts. Thanks. Brent
Brent
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mjfog
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- Martin Colony History: 2018 will be my first try. 6 S&K B09s. 29 eggs - 8 fledged
2019 - 12 Troyer Horizontals with tunnels, 6 S&K B09s and 12 B011s all with tunnels. 43 eggs - 36 fledged
2020 - Rack 1 - 6 B011s, Rack 2 - 24 B011s, and Rack 3 - 24 Troyer Horizontals. All gourds have tunnels, porches and crescent/Conley 11 entrances; racks have predator guards. 161 eggs - 88 fledged.
2021 - 54 gourds-214 eggs, 184 hatched, 168 fledged.
2022 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 363 eggs, 294 hatched, 278 fledged.
2023 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 321 eggs, 276 hatched, 246 fledged.
2024 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 330 eggs, 283 hatched, 250 fledged.
2025 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 347 eggs, 281 hatched, 266 fledged.
Brent,
Don't worry about the .0001% that may not make it. Spend more time talking to your rep about what you can do about slowing down climate change. Let's face it; its gonna get hotter. Mike, Palm City
Don't worry about the .0001% that may not make it. Spend more time talking to your rep about what you can do about slowing down climate change. Let's face it; its gonna get hotter. Mike, Palm City
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C.C.Martins
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- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Hey Brent,
Think they will be ok, the vents will keep the air circulating, even if its hot air. They will just lay low and pant. Many, many years of 110 to 114 heat index, and needless worry drives me to say they will be fine. Remember their body temp is 103.
We have 2 two day old chicks, more to come I think....and its just now July, going to be real real hot....even so they will be fine.
Think they will be ok, the vents will keep the air circulating, even if its hot air. They will just lay low and pant. Many, many years of 110 to 114 heat index, and needless worry drives me to say they will be fine. Remember their body temp is 103.
We have 2 two day old chicks, more to come I think....and its just now July, going to be real real hot....even so they will be fine.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
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Dave Reynolds
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- Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged
Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged
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... mjfog.... Like your answer,,
Dave
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Little Hocking, Ohio
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Thomas Maddox
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Don't worry about the unfortunate, disadvantaged?? Where is your Data to back up your claim of only. 0001?
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mjfog
- Posts: 449
- Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:40 pm
- Location: Palm City, FL
- Martin Colony History: 2018 will be my first try. 6 S&K B09s. 29 eggs - 8 fledged
2019 - 12 Troyer Horizontals with tunnels, 6 S&K B09s and 12 B011s all with tunnels. 43 eggs - 36 fledged
2020 - Rack 1 - 6 B011s, Rack 2 - 24 B011s, and Rack 3 - 24 Troyer Horizontals. All gourds have tunnels, porches and crescent/Conley 11 entrances; racks have predator guards. 161 eggs - 88 fledged.
2021 - 54 gourds-214 eggs, 184 hatched, 168 fledged.
2022 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 363 eggs, 294 hatched, 278 fledged.
2023 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 321 eggs, 276 hatched, 246 fledged.
2024 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 330 eggs, 283 hatched, 250 fledged.
2025 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 347 eggs, 281 hatched, 266 fledged.
Thomas, Regards my data to back up the .0001% claim of mortality due to heat stress. I have none; it was just a figure of speech. Heat stress mortality must affect some percentage of clutches but I still maintain it's a minor issue when compared to martin losses due to climate change, nest competition with house sparrows and starlings and habitat loss in the winter grounds. Mike
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Jones4381
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2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122
2025 54 Pair -178
2026 65 pair- 220+/-
First off I love Louisiana but dang you boys and gals down there in LA/TX deal with some oppressive heat...It's the night time temps I'm always amazed at this time of the year when I occasionally get that way...brent wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:36 amHi all. I have a late nest of 3 young that are now 8 days old. Last nest check they look great and are growing. Parents are actively involved. The temperature is predicted to be 95 with heat index of 105. I have Trendsetter houses that are vented. What do you think? Too hot or worrying for nothing? Let me know your thoughts. Thanks. Brent
I view it as heat/humidity/moisture events are perfect breeding grounds for mite explosions in the colony but with a late pair I'm betting everything will be fine...nothing wrong with a little worring, that's what people that are full of love, tend to do the most... Hope your season was peaceful.
"Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you." - Lao Tzu
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Jones4381
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2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122
2025 54 Pair -178
2026 65 pair- 220+/-
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"Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you." - Lao Tzu
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Martintown33
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Hi Brent.. the 94 highs we’ve been having aren’t a threat… as long as you’re vented , you’ll be ok.. once it gets above 98 , the heat may become an issue, but venting helps..
Good luck
Rob
Good luck
Rob
PMCA member
Laplace, La
Laplace, La
