I am trying to help our local Audubon locate and move a housing set-up to a better location. Unfortunately, the only open space within 100 of occupied dwelling (the visitor center) is a parking lot...with bright LED lights on all night. My gut feeling is that this would bother the PM's. Does anybody have any real world experience or good info. about how lights might effect the birds? Thanks in advance.
note: This is a previously unoccupied site so there are no previous year birds returning.
Parking lot lights near housing?
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bootjack farm
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Northwest PA
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C.C.Martins
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2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025:
HOSP: 3 Starlings: 10
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 4 natural gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025:
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Hope it pans out, sounds like a good idea!
The lights won't bother them. Iv 18 gourds smack in the middle of my front yard. Garage outdoor lights come on at dusk. Never been a problem.
Also there is a roost that forms every year, they are in a bunch of oaks in a strip mall and parking lot, last year two of the street lights near the roost burnt out, the roost moved 100 yards away to a better lit area.
Think your gonna be ok.
The lights won't bother them. Iv 18 gourds smack in the middle of my front yard. Garage outdoor lights come on at dusk. Never been a problem.
Also there is a roost that forms every year, they are in a bunch of oaks in a strip mall and parking lot, last year two of the street lights near the roost burnt out, the roost moved 100 yards away to a better lit area.
Think your gonna be ok.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
Tom is right. I have my martin house very close to my driveway which is lit. Doesn’t bother them in the least. I think they feel secure with the lights.
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37,
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2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37,
PMCA Member
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Martintown33
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Agree 100%… in my experience night light doesn’t bother them. I’m sure it’s quite dark inside their cavities , even with outside light.
Rob
Rob
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Laplace, La
Laplace, La
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Dave Reynolds
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- Martin Colony History: 2017 Visitors
Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 162 Eggs, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 146 Eggs, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 157 Eggs, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 212 Eggs, 198 Fledged
Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 39 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair 64 Eggs, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 89 Eggs, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 111 Eggs, 104 Fledged
….. Also agree with everyone.. I have a dusk to dawn light (Streetlight) 40 feet away from my housing.. Doesn’t bother them a bit.. Good Luck this year….
Dave
Dave
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Little Hocking, Ohio
Little Hocking, Ohio
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bootjack farm
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- Martin Colony History: 9 years of trying hard...finally in 2017 I had 3 pair w/ 11 babies. T-14 +4 w/ 4 Troyer horiz. gourds. Troyer Super System 24. Fast forward to 2020... 64 fledged.
Good to hear. I'll recommend we give it a try. Thanks all for the input.
Northwest PA