My best HOSP shot!

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Martintown33
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Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Man , I have to share how pleased and proud I am, of a shot I made on a brazen male HOSP this morning . I heard a raucous going on at my site so went out to have a look. A male HOSP had apparently taken possession of an unoccupied gourd, that an ASY male had been holding onto as a second residence. The HOSP was in the gourd tunnel with just his head sticking out the hole. The ASY was fighting with the HOSP, trying to pull him out. But Even with the help of other martins the HOSP wouldn’t give up the gourd. I got in my blind, but couldn’t get a shot on him, because of the angle. So I got out, expecting him to fly off, but he just ducked in a bit, with only half of his head , now sticking out the hole. I went and got a lawn chair to use as a barrel rest. Got down on a knee, and put my crosshairs on his left eye, with still just half his head sticking out. My martins flying around , sqwaking at him. I pulled the trigger… got the little sucker! Pellet through the left eye… so pleased and proud of this shot.. and happy that my martins babies are safe..
Rob
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Laplace, La
defed
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Location: WNY
Martin Colony History: :
2022 - 1 pair, 5E, 4H, 4F
2023 - 2 pair, 9E, 5H, 5F

feels good to make a shot like that. i once got a starling w/ his head (profile) poking out of the hole. I'm not that great of a shot so i don't often take those especially w/ my plastic gourds. the one i made was a wooden house, so i wasn't too worried about hitting it.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 2915
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
HOSP: 66. Starlings: 30
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 40 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
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No stinking way!!!!!! Oh what a shot!!!!! In the eye! Only shot you had and wow what a hit.
Man thats wonderful. Little jerk wasn't worried about you, he knew if he left he'd start his fight over.
Great shot Rob, spectacular.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
Martintown33
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Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Thanks guys,, Really very pleased with the shot… re-zeroing the scope using the zoom magnifying, in the off-season, has really paid dividends… needless to say, when I pulled the dead HOSP out, wasn’t much left of his head!
Rob
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savagedo
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Location: Greenfield Ohio

That shot would make Clint Eastwood mighty proud ;)

A couple of weeks ago I drilled a starling sitting on the ridge of my roof…. At 50+ yards with my Diana pellet gun… used my John Deere Gator door as a rest. Those suckers are so wary…. I guess it figured I couldn’t make that shot LOL.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 2915
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
HOSP: 66. Starlings: 30
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 40 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
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Pays to practice and shoot doesn't it? Took the new pellet gun to the range during lunch last week for some tweeking; just so happened I needed it to zap one that afternoon.
What is really nice is its a fantastic shot and a "must hit."
This is a good audience for that, doesn't translate well with some. My wife says "poor things" and everyone at work thinks I'm just off a bit.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
Martintown33
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Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Yep Tom, fine tuning your gun and scope, and target practice definitely pays off.. and agree, Martin landlords are really the only ones who understand that eliminating HOSPS is a must..as we all know, they are an invasive species and endanger the well being of many cavity dwelling indigenous birds, not just martins… on top of that, they are capable of intense evil acts, and are extremely smart and sneaky in achieving them… That’s the way it is.. it’s either them or the martins, so they gotta go!
Rob
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flyin-lowe
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I'm sure you have said before, but I missed it. What gun are you using? A couple weeks ago I bought a Umarex Notos and love it. I had most of the HOSP in my area taken care of but had a few very skittish stragglers I could get. I measured from inside my house to the PM housing and sited the gun in at that distance. I am slowly but surely getting any of them that land on my housing. I hadn't got one for several days but had one land in the shrub about 5 yards behind my T 14 this morning and took him down.
2024 HOSP count-29
2023 60+ pair, HOSP count-8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP count-14
2021 62 nest fledged aprox. 230, HOSP count-9
2020 42 nest, Fledged 164, HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
Martintown33
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Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Hi flyin.. your numerex notos is a great gun for sure! To your question, I use a gamo whisper 1300 fps, 1 pump, with a konus scope set on 3.5 magnification, and gamo red fire, 7.8 gr pellets, and a stabilizer shooting bag..
Glad you have your HOSPS under control.. same here, except for the occasional unfortunate HOSP who tries to intrude..those dont last long..
Rob
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flyin-lowe
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I need to get my older Gammo out and tinker with it. I can't remember the exact model but I bought it at one of the big box outdoor retailers and never could get it to group. I tried several different type pellets and at 20 yards it was only grouping like 2 inches, no where near what I need to hit a HOSP at 35 yards. At the time I paid around 130.00 or so for the gun, probably 10 or so years ago. I tried varies types of holds, rests, etc. and just not accurate at all. I probably need to clean the barrel real well, get a better scope, and see if I can dial it in....
2024 HOSP count-29
2023 60+ pair, HOSP count-8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP count-14
2021 62 nest fledged aprox. 230, HOSP count-9
2020 42 nest, Fledged 164, HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
Martintown33
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Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Yep, flyin.. pellet rifles can sometimes be fickle! I really love my gamo.. . I bought it 4 years ago… Im getting consistent nickel sized groups at 20 yards , using stabilizer bag.. it’s accurate and I like the , one pump, 1300 fps.. I almost bought a beeman last year, but decided to stay with the gamo…. beemans are great, but I’m having very good success with the gamo so didn’t want to change things up..
Rob
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Dave Duit
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Location: Iowa / Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2023, 81 pair with 350 fledged youngsters. 106 total cavities available, 82 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified deep trio metal house units, 1 fallout shelter, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President and founder of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit Iowa Purple Martin Organization on Facebook. Emails send to [email protected]. Subject line include Iowa Purple Martin.

Great shot buddy. It is always a good feeling to pick off a pesty obnoxious sparrow.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.
Jones4381
Posts: 732
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Southwestern VA
Martin Colony History: 2020- 0
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-119

You tell a great story and explain it so well, one can feel and see the moment exactly as it occurred and at that exhilarating moment, thank you for that. Congrats on your success.
"Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you." - Lao Tzu
DeeCee
Posts: 49
Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:59 pm
Location: Brandon, Manitoba
Martin Colony History: 2019 1 pair 4 fledged
2020 4 pairs 11 fledged
2021 7 pairs 33 fledged
2022 9 pairs 35 fledged
2023 9 pairs 37 fledged

Awesome shot Martintown 33!! Congrats to you. Shooting one of those pesking sparrows always brightens my day. Thanks for sharing such a well written writen story. I felt like I was right there. :grin:
dcronwell
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue May 31, 2022 7:23 pm
Location: Florida
Martin Colony History: Panama City, FL
2024 - 12 gourds - 12 nests - 61 eggs - 45 fledged
- Single pole 6 over 6; (4) SG R; (2) TH C; (3) TV C; (3) TV R
2023 - 12 gourds - 9 nests - 42 eggs - 36 fledged
- Single pole 6 over 6; (4) SG R; (2) TH C; (2) TV C; (2) TV R; (2) natural gourds R
2022 - 12 gourds - 11 nests - 54 eggs - 30 fledged (raccoon attack mid-season)
- Single pole 6 over 6; (4) SG R; (4) TV C; (2) TV R; (2) old Heath one piece R
2021 - 10 gourds - 4 nests - 18 eggs - 15 fledged
- Single pole 6 over 4; (4) SG R; (2) TV C; (4) TV R
2020 - (6) SG R gourds - first year; no nests but did see investigators
2018 - Hurricane Michael tore down many trees to open up habitat - set up array Feb 2020

I am nowhere that good of a shot and to prove it I have the pellet dent a quarter inch above the round entrance in a SuperGourd that had a male HOSP peeking out of earlier this year...
C.C.Martins
Posts: 2915
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
HOSP: 66. Starlings: 30
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 40 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
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Haha! Funny, yeah some dings and dents that should have been cushioned by sparrow bone and feathers!
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
firefighterdave
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri May 31, 2024 10:41 pm
Location: Elizabeth, Arkansas
Martin Colony History: Just put up my first 24 unit house/condo this March. Just saw my first pair this week scouting. They come and go, so far they don't stay real long, but come back several times a day.

I am a new member to this forum and need a little help with the lingo. What does HOSP and ASY mean?
Phil01
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Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:42 pm
Location: Fernandina Beach FL
Martin Colony History: 34 Cavities offered.
24 unit gourd rack with Troyer Horizontal and Vertical Gourds. Sunset Inn aluminum house with 4 Troyer Horizontal Gourds.

2020- 1 pair, 4 eggs, fledged 3
2021- 3 pair, 15 eggs, fledged 8
2022- 5 pair, 26 eggs, fledged 21
2023- 10 pair, 53 eggs, fledged 27

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Welcome to the forum!

HOSP=House Sparrow
ASY=After Second Year

ASY are adult martins that have made more than one trip to Brazil and back. They have their full adult plumage.

You will also see folks mention SY martins. These are last years fledglings making their first return to nest. They do not have their adult plumage yet. All will have a light colored chest and look similar to the ASY (adult) females.

Phil
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firefighterdave
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Joined: Fri May 31, 2024 10:41 pm
Location: Elizabeth, Arkansas
Martin Colony History: Just put up my first 24 unit house/condo this March. Just saw my first pair this week scouting. They come and go, so far they don't stay real long, but come back several times a day.

Thanks for the info. The pair I have attempting to use the house, the male is very dark purple/blue. The female dark purple on the upper body and wings and lighter on the under side. Growing up my Grandfather had Martins, as a kid we sat for hours watching them fly and feed the young. We lived in the city in the middle of Illinois, so HOSP were a big problem. Here in AR I live very close to Lake Norfork, 13 miles to Mountain Home and I rarely see a HOSP at any of my feeders. So far none around the Martin house.
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