Purple Martin Pole Guard Up!
Thanks to everyone that responded to my post "Mysterious Martins". My husband made a pole guard yesterday with 1 inch wire chicken wire, double layered three inches apart, stapled to a wooden platform. He couldn't find 3/4 inch bird netting at our local hardware stores. Would love to have your opinions! The martins are still circling, but no occupancy yet.
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2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
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Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
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I think he did a wonderful job, I know that guard wasn't made easy...at least not for me...I did the exact same ones from chucks page. First time cut the center hole correctly, then when cutting it into two pieces did not account for the now smaller size and it wouldn't fit! Drove me nuts.
Perhaps you can find snake netting (sold as bird net) at a plant store. Then drape that on the chicken wire. I think you are there! He did a good job.
Perhaps you can find snake netting (sold as bird net) at a plant store. Then drape that on the chicken wire. I think you are there! He did a good job.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
Thanks so much! He actually didn't do two pieces of wood. He cut two initially and sounds like he had the same issue you did! So he settled for just one. He will really appreciate your kind comments!!!!C.C.Martins wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:04 pmI think he did a wonderful job, I know that guard wasn't made easy...at least not for me...I did the exact same ones from chucks page. First time cut the center hole correctly, then when cutting it into two pieces did not account for the now smaller size and it wouldn't fit! Drove me nuts.
Perhaps you can find snake netting (sold as bird net) at a plant store. Then drape that on the chicken wire. I think you are there! He did a good job.
Question: Why do you think we need to place snake netting on top of the chicken wire? Do you think the chicken wire will not stop a snake?
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2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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Hahaha, well at least I'm not the only one, woodworking is a skill well beyond me. The house he built could never be made by me.
No I don't think so, reason I say that is a 1 foot long rat snake got through our net, killed 3 chicks and ate 6 eggs. We only found him on the way down when he was fatter. He got stuck.
I was using 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch net. 3/4 inch was wrapped around the 1/4 inch. It got through.
That set up stopped 3 other attempts by larger snakes but not that one. So that little ratsnake got up 14 feet, bypassed the baffle and net, went to a gourd, strangled but didn't eat the chicks just the eggs.
Its well worth it, here its almost 50 dollar a bag but its worth it.
No I don't think so, reason I say that is a 1 foot long rat snake got through our net, killed 3 chicks and ate 6 eggs. We only found him on the way down when he was fatter. He got stuck.
I was using 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch net. 3/4 inch was wrapped around the 1/4 inch. It got through.
That set up stopped 3 other attempts by larger snakes but not that one. So that little ratsnake got up 14 feet, bypassed the baffle and net, went to a gourd, strangled but didn't eat the chicks just the eggs.
Its well worth it, here its almost 50 dollar a bag but its worth it.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
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I feel like the chicken wire would be rigid enough a rat snake could grip on the outside of it and go up. Could be wrong though. Unfortunately I feel like a racoon could go right up that no problem...
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24 unit gourd rack with Troyer Horizontal and Vertical Gourds. Sunset Inn aluminum house with 4 Troyer Horizontal Gourds.
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I agree with flyin-lowe. Maybe I’m wrong but seems to me a ground predator would be able to go right up the chicken wire… Hope I’m wrong…
Great job building it though. Your hubby is talented!
Phil
Great job building it though. Your hubby is talented!
Phil
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C.C.Martins wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:21 pmHahaha, well at least I'm not the only one, woodworking is a skill well beyond me. The house he built could never be made by me.
No I don't think so, reason I say that is a 1 foot long rat snake got through our net, killed 3 chicks and ate 6 eggs. We only found him on the way down when he was fatter. He got stuck.
I was using 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch net. 3/4 inch was wrapped around the 1/4 inch. It got through.
That set up stopped 3 other attempts by larger snakes but not that one. So that little ratsnake got up 14 feet, bypassed the baffle and net, went to a gourd, strangled but didn't eat the chicks just the eggs.
Its well worth it, here its almost 50 dollar a bag but its worth it.
As a side note, when he was younger, my husband actually built a pool table. He got an inexpensive table from a friend and just used the three pieces of slate. Spent an entire summer building it! I'll attach a pic. Yes, he is quite talentedOceangirl wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:18 amC.C.Martins wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:21 pmHahaha, well at least I'm not the only one, woodworking is a skill well beyond me. The house he built could never be made by me.
No I don't think so, reason I say that is a 1 foot long rat snake got through our net, killed 3 chicks and ate 6 eggs. We only found him on the way down when he was fatter. He got stuck.
I was using 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch net. 3/4 inch was wrapped around the 1/4 inch. It got through.
That set up stopped 3 other attempts by larger snakes but not that one. So that little ratsnake got up 14 feet, bypassed the baffle and net, went to a gourd, strangled but didn't eat the chicks just the eggs.
Its well worth it, here its almost 50 dollar a bag but its worth it.
Wow, I can't believe that one ratsnake made it through. We'll check out some bird net to put over it. Thanks again!!!!
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Phil01 and flyin-lowe - that is concerning for sure. What if we also use some bird netting on top as C.C. Martins suggested? We actually haven't seen any raccoons around, but then again, I know these critters like to come out at night when we are asleep.
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2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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Ocean girl,
I'd wrap the whole thing in netting. Use the chicken wire as support. Right now the threat is the snake. Think you have time.
I'd wrap the whole thing in netting. Use the chicken wire as support. Right now the threat is the snake. Think you have time.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
Hello everyone! We found some bird netting and wrapped it several times around the chicken wire. It's a little hard to see in the picture, but I hope this does the job!
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Now that's awesome! Great job!
Thanks, Thomas!
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2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
PMCA member
Agree with Thomas,
Think that looks great! All the talk of snakes had me out at the preserve adding more snake net over the holiday!
Be prepared, it catches them alive, so be ready with some very small sizzors or nail clippers to cut the net from around it. Take it well away. Like a mile or more.
Think that looks great! All the talk of snakes had me out at the preserve adding more snake net over the holiday!
Be prepared, it catches them alive, so be ready with some very small sizzors or nail clippers to cut the net from around it. Take it well away. Like a mile or more.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
At least (if it is a ratsnake), it's not poisonous! And we bought enough netting to replace it. Thanks so much for all your suggestions!!C.C.Martins wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:59 pmAgree with Thomas,
Think that looks great! All the talk of snakes had me out at the preserve adding more snake net over the holiday!
Be prepared, it catches them alive, so be ready with some very small sizzors or nail clippers to cut the net from around it. Take it well away. Like a mile or more.
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I've been bitten by a few trying to get them out of the netting. It really wasn't bad, now none have been more than 3 three feet or so.
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- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
PMCA member
And that sir, goes with the territory and is the mark of a landlord! Iv not been bitten yet, although they try. Too tired I guess. 3 feet is pretty good size.Thomas Maddox wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 1:04 pmI've been bitten by a few trying to get them out of the netting. It really wasn't bad, now none have been more than 3 three feet or so.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.