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Jones4381
Posts: 723
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Rocky Mount VA
Martin Colony History: 60 gourds
2020- visitors
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 39 pair-TBD

Here the pairs always go for the two pears about 80 feet from their nest first and pick them pretty good, although some pairs continue to pick leaves here it seems they have moved their preference to some Black Cherries (after about a month) that are on the high side of the property with some White oaks that are mature giving highest altitude on property. Question, do you think they go for the leaves that are closest or prefer a specific type and where the leaves are at in their stage, does safety in picking factor in? Occasionally they chose the largest white oak here that give's them the best vantage point of sight (along with large Cherry side by side crowns) or is it ease of picking and returning to nest, or a type of leaf they're looking for? I always find it interesting when other LL's share their leaf stories and the what nots found in the nest...also some load it down with leaves while others only have a few...
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Martintown33
Posts: 1029
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Hi Jones.. from my observation they love oak tree leaves, but do go to the closest tree at times too and use those leaves, which is a maple..
Rob
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Laplace, La
C.C.Martins
Posts: 2879
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair.
HOSP: 52 Starlings: 29
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 36 PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mini castle with troyer tunnels and enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair,
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Jones, they love oaks around here. Also crepe myrtle. There is a big ash tree near me, but they seem to struggle when trying to pull leaves off. Yeah some nests are loaded with leaves, seems like I'm always taking leaves out if I think there's too many...I worry eggs will not incubate.
The crape myrtle tree is lower than any of the nearby oaks and certainly the ash, and they love it.
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Jones4381
Posts: 723
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Rocky Mount VA
Martin Colony History: 60 gourds
2020- visitors
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 39 pair-TBD

amazing on the variances of leaves and their choices from place to place...I have 3 large crape's and they don't touch em... Thanks guys for the share.
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Martintown33
Posts: 1029
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Location: Laplace,La
Martin Colony History: Colony started in 1998. 2 s&k modified houses and gourd rack

Yep, I guess they use what’s available and what they’re used to. Plenty of crepe myrtles around here, and my martins don’t use them either.. strictly oak and chewed off pieces of maple leaves…
Rob
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Laplace, La
Conrad Baker
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Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:43 pm
Location: Paulina, Louisiana

I had several citrus trees that the PM removed leaves from. I think maybe they helped keep mites and other pests from the nests. The trees have died since then, so they just use oak leaves from the neighbor's tree now, along with the long thin sugar cane leaves they retrieve from the cane fields behind my house.
Phil01
Posts: 215
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:42 pm
Location: Fernandina Beach FL
Martin Colony History: 34 Cavities offered.
24 unit gourd rack with Troyer Horizontal and Vertical Gourds. Sunset Inn aluminum house with 4 Troyer Horizontal Gourds.

2020- 1 pair, 4 eggs, fledged 3
2021- 3 pair, 15 eggs, fledged 8
2022- 5 pair, 26 eggs, fledged 21
2023- 10 pair, 53 eggs, fledged 27

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Mine love the live oak leaves. We have some Oaks over 100ft tall and they go to the very top grabbing leaves.(It’s also where they take the fledglings during flight training) Had to remove a bunch of oak leaves this year in some of the nests after reading on here some of the eggs may not get incubated. My neighbor has a birch tree 30 feet tall only about 100 ft from the housing. It will be covered up with martins during nest building. As I mentioned in another thread had a SY female this year using Spanish moss… Only one I ever seen use that.. I’ve also have them use some sort of a husk, it looks like the type you find on the palm leaves when they open up.. They never touch my Crepe Myrtle tree.
Very very interesting how they use what’s available in different parts of the country.
Phil
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Fernandina Beach, FL
randyM
Posts: 231
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:30 pm
Location: Long Lake SD
Martin Colony History: * 2016 - 1 nesting pair (ASYM + SYF) 2/3 eggs hatched 2 young fledged.
* 2017 - 4 nesting pairs, 16/17 eggs hatched, 16 fledged, 16 banded - 2 banded SY returned in 2018 (12.5%), added housing: 11 houses w/gourds, 4 gourd poles = 376 cavities
* 2018 - 10 nesting pairs, 46/52 eggs hatched, 45 fledged, 29 young banded - 3 banded SY returned in 2019 (10.3%)
*2019 - 32 nesting pairs, 145/160 eggs hatched, 139 fledged - 87 young banded - 12 banded SY returned in 2020 (13.8%).
* 2020 - 35 nesting pairs, 180/199 eggs hatched, 178 fledged - 150 young banded - 42 banded SY returned in 2021 (28.0%).
* 2021 - 89 nesting pairs, 363/446 eggs hatched, 355 fledged - 150 young banded - 19 banded SY returned in 2022 (12.7%).
*2022 - 116 nesting pairs, 495/579 eggs hatched, 471 fledged - 150 young banded.
27 banded SY returned in 2023 (18.0%)
*2023 - 160 nesting pairs, 708/828 eggs hatched, 572 fledged - 150 young banded

Early nesting martins at my colony usually use lilac bush leaves as they are the first leaves available at my site. Later nests have green ash and elm leaves. There are a few cottonwood trees nearby, but have never seen a cottonwood leaf in a martin nest at my site. Last year was a cold and late spring, so most of the first nests had green grass and no leaves. A few martins plucked all the leaves from my young bell pepper and cabbage plants I had recently planted in my garden last spring as well!

Randy
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